These might be a good standardized replacement option for the Alan Grey tops originally used in battle (striking) events. They look to be a reasonable size and suitable for custom coloring (paint or even markers) to make them distinguishable. Plus they are likely a little more robust compared to the easily broken plastic tips of the currently used Short Circuit. I'm not sure there is a US importer/distributor as quick Amazon and ebay searches did not show them on the first few pages.
The way I decide this question depends upon the spinning surface. You do not want a tip so sharp and hard that it "drills" into the base. So a round smooth tip is usually best.
It's not worth doing if you're not obsessed about it.
it depends.
a sharp tip is very good for some tricks. Of course, you must be careful with it, and with practicing, you will be able to receive it in your hands with no harm and injuries. If you still are a new , noviciate player, I reccomend you not to use sharp tip. Sharp tips are for players of many years that know what to do with them, taking advantage of the SHARK (curiously, in english..."sharp" and "shark" are almost the same word) tips. If you are starting to learn to play, I suggest you to keep some years your tips very sharp and use them when you have some years of practice. Some years ago, I read in this forum, to say sth about some tips "stupidly sharpen" but, I guess, that player was starting to learn to play and, obviously, sharpen tips were not good to begin. In this case, is much better to ask here, in specialized websites like this one, and experienced people can suggest and give you advices.
In the another hand, a round and worn-out (((I am not so sure if worn-out be the correct expression for what in spanish we say "gastada, desgastada". Even, we could say, more correctly in this case "romada" por el desgaste de girarse en el concreto))) tip, is better and much more better for some tricks and routines, and, even, ideal or uniquely round tips are the ones for some specific tricks or routines. And, of course, are the best and ideal when you start to play and train. But, finally, only with practice and constant training, yourself, the player, is who´s going to discover all the details through some years of dedicate time and efforts to the spintop.
Grettings
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I agree with Salvador; a beginner boomeranging a top with a sharp tip is like getting stabbed in the hand. I personally didn’t really like sharp tips either until I learned to control the boomerang better, and absorb the impact of the tip.
Ketzaltlipoka wrote:
it depends.
a sharp tip is very good for some tricks. ....
Could you give a few examples (maybe even with links to videos)?For the most tricks I have ever seen, the tip does not seem to be very important since it is only in contact with the hand for a moment and then afterwards it is mostly the neck of the top that touches the string where the interaction of the top is with other objects. Or are you thinking of kind of juggling tricks like hacky top and the much more advanced versions thereof?
In the broader world of tops, nothing's everything! — Jeremy McCreary
ortwin wrote:
Or are you thinking of kind of juggling tricks like hacky top and the much more advanced versions thereof?
I think they are referring to stall/balance/juggling tricks in which you land the top in some part of your body. But no hacky top: it's painful to bounce a top with a sharp tip . . .
I still remember that one of the very first articles about tops that I read online (in TheGlassLab) had pictures of Spintop Stigmata.
The finger grind is almost impossible with a round tip. Hacky type tricks are actually much easier with a sharper tip, since the top doesn’t have to be bounced perfectly straight to come up straight. Although they can be very painful to perform….
Could you give a few examples (maybe even with links to videos)?For the most tricks I have ever seen, the tip does not seem to be very important since it is only in contact with the hand for a moment and then afterwards it is mostly the neck of the top that touches the string where the interaction of the top is with other objects. Or are you thinking of kind of juggling tricks like hacky top and the much more advanced versions thereof?
hi! give some days and I will explain in detail, and if posible, I will try to add some video.
Have you guys talked to your therapists lately? These blood-drawing tricks could be a form of self-mutilation.
In fact, to practice this sport of spintop is sometimes a little risky. Some serious damages, injuries, harms and pains can be the result of practicing some tricks and routines. Oneself must be aware of it.
Meanwhile, would those knife-proof chef's cutting gloves be worth a try for certain tricks? Or tactical socks?
The first time I saw someone to use gloves to play spintop was to Tyler Young in the tournament of 2013....or 2012? My memory starts to fail. At the beggining I thought it was exagerated and unnecessary, but with pass of time I have changed my opinion and to use gloves is a good option. I use them all time, mainly, to protect my hands skin against the sunlight and the heat of the day, but I discovered that friction is less spinning the top on gloves than in the skin of the palm hand. The duration of the spin movement is more on the glove surface than in the skinb of the palm of tge hand.
Some day, many, many years ago, I used to add some protection in my feet, a kind of "protective socks". To protect the ankle while practicing hacky top tricks.
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Hydrona wrote:
@ortwin, great that you got the same! And doing tricks with them.That surely means they are at least decent spin tops.
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I just found an old video on the forum that shows that more tricks are possible with those Can Cels baldufas.
I can now also do wirewalker and short circuit with those and throw a trapeze.
In the broader world of tops, nothing's everything! — Jeremy McCreary
Hydrona wrote:
@ortwin, great that you got the same! And doing tricks with them.That surely means they are at least decent spin tops.
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I just found an old video on the forum that shows that more tricks are possible with those Can Cels baldufas.
I can now also do wirewalker and short circuit with those and throw a trapeze.
Congrats!
I'm not practicing that much lately, but if I do, I practice boomerang, wire walker and catch the top on the string. The last named trick is great! It gives me a boost whenever I did it!
I'm glad someone can do tricks with them. One day I'll will be able too.
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