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Rubik Top (Hybrid Toy Project)

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:39 am
by P Sidgman R
Hello everyone,

My name is Patricio, I'm Chilean, I'm 25 years old and I'm an engineering student.
I like twisted puzzles and spinning tops, although I'm not very good at doing tricks, the only trick I know how to do is the boomerang.

Lately I have been working on a project that joins my two hobbies, I hope to be delivering images of each advance in this same publication.

I attach some images below,

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Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:01 am
by mailman
Very intriguing, Patricio! I look forward to future developments....

Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:10 am
by Jeremy McCreary
Welcome aboard, Patricio!

Very cool idea. The completed top's shape is quite elegant.

Q: How does the top hold together against centrifugal force at speed. Or is it not meant to spin?

Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:26 am
by ortwin
Welcome to this forum Patricio!
Your hybrid toy will go down with this community far better than the fidget spinner puzzle thing I mentioned here.

Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:32 am
by ta0
Wow! What a cool project! 8)

How much can it be scrambled? I can see that planes can be rotated but it's difficult for me to visualize further scrambling.

If you ever are successful I want one! I think you could make it into a commercial product if you pursue it. If not, I would like at least the files to 3D print one.

Welcome to the forum, Patricio! I think you are the first one posting from Chile.

Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:32 am
by Bill Wells
Welcome to the group, Patricio. Very interesting top, how do you make it?

Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:12 pm
by Texture
Looks like an interesting project! If it can spin than it would be very amazing. 8)

Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:47 pm
by mailman
By "twisted puzzles" I wonder if Patricio is referring to a Rubik's cube. That would make this even more interesting....

Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:21 pm
by the Earl of Whirl
Welcome Patricio. So great to have you with us and also have someone from Chile on the board!!!

Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:53 pm
by ortwin
mailman wrote: "twisted puzzles" I wonder if Patricio is referring to a Rubik's cube. ....
He is also in another forum that I happen to be in : twistypuzzles.com
And yes the Rubik's cube is by far the most famous twisty puzzle but there are literally thousands more.
A definition found here:
Twisty Puzzles A three dimensional twisty puzzle is usually made of a set of pieces that can change their position through a group of operations, obtaining different combinations. Physically, the rearrangement of positions is done through the rotation (twist) of some pieces around a point of the polyhedron (which may represent one of the pieces of the puzzle), which is usually located at the center of a face or a corner.
Often the puzzle pieces have one or more colors and the solved state is represented by the position in which each face of the polyhedron contains pieces of a single color.

Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:37 pm
by P Sidgman R
Thank you very much for your comments and the welcome you have given me.

It is indeed a Rubik's cube in the shape of a spinning top, so it is not solved by colors but by the shapes of the pieces (once it is mixed).

As for the spinning is something I still have to investigate, but my idea is that it can spin as a spinning top as well. I think I will implement some features that modern cubes have, an internal anti-pop system and magnets in order to make it as stable as possible.

For now I am making the hub caps and I have to consider the millimeters needed for the holes where the screws will pass through.

I am designing it in Onshape, the truth is that there are several steps, but the program is quite intuitive, with the help of tutorials on the web I have helped me a lot.

My idea is that this project can reach the market if I'm lucky, but if not I will gladly share the file (I still have to finish of course).

I got Calvin's Puzzle to mass produce my 2x4x6 Fisher modification, I guess if I present a good prototype and if I have the support of both forums maybe they will consider mass producing it too.
The truth would be a dream come true since I had thought of this project before the 2x4x6 Fisher.

Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:41 pm
by Jeremy McCreary
Best of luck in this project! If you could add functioning top to this puzzle's resume, I'd buy one for sure.

PS: Will also look into Onshape.

Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:46 pm
by CUPER
Bienvenido al foro y mundo trompos saludos cordiales de Guadalajara México

Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:01 pm
by ortwin
P Sidgman R wrote: ...

I got Calvin's Puzzle to mass produce my 2x4x6 Fisher modification.....
Maybe you could post a link here where people can buy it, or at least have a look to know what it is all about. Even better would be a short video that is showing your 2x4x6 Fisher modification in action. (Be warned Patricio, some people here are blaming me that I would give homework to others that I myself would never do! Of course that is not even 90% true.)



Re: I'm new to the forum + Hybrid Toy Project

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:05 am
by P Sidgman R
Jeremy McCreary wrote: Best of luck in this project! If you could add functioning top to this puzzle's resume, I'd buy one for sure.

PS: Will also look into Onshape.
That sounds great!

CUPER wrote: Bienvenido al foro y mundo trompos saludos cordiales de Guadalajara México

Muchas gracias, saludos :)!!!

ortwin wrote:
Maybe you could post a link here where people can buy it, or at least have a look to know what it is all about. Even better would be a short video that is showing your 2x4x6 Fisher modification in action.
Sure, no problem.

It is a cuboid but is sold in three different designs:

https://www.hknowstore.com/locale/en-US ... -NS-CB4843
https://www.hknowstore.com/locale/en-US ... -NS-CB4844
https://www.hknowstore.com/locale/en-US ... -NS-CB4845

A review by Danavi:

https://youtu.be/5ymC_EBZVvk

Unboxing performed by MrUk:

https://youtu.be/ZsFG6F7YYWc?t=379


;)