Inquiry about the History of "Ladder" Sport

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Inquiry about the History of "Ladder" Sport

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Hello everyone,

I'm currently working on promoting a sport called "ladder" here in Japan. During my research, I discovered that "ladder" was played in other countries in the past. I'm very interested in learning more about its history and would be grateful if anyone could share some information.

Specifically, I'm hoping to find out:

When did the sport of "ladder" originate?
What were the circumstances or reasons behind its creation?
Who was credited with starting or popularizing "ladder"?
Any details, anecdotes, or resources you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and assistance!
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I'm not sure to what sport you refer to. In spintops (and yoyos) we used to have a "sports ladder" division (a progressive list of tricks that have to be done in a specific order), but I don't think you refer to that.

You may be referring to the ladder tournament ranking format: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladder_tournament. It would be interesting to see it implemented with tops.

You probably don't refer to this sport:

Ladder Racing

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(this thread will likely move to NSTR)

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I just refer to the sport ladder division of spinning top!
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Oh, ok.

Before 1992, when Dale Oliver introduced freestyle yo-yo competition, all yo-yo and spintop contests were done in a ladder format. You had a list of progressively harder tricks and you did them one by one. After a certain number of misses, you were out. There were variations in the rules: sometimes you could skip a trick that you missed, sometimes you had to redo it. The winner was whoever went higher. If there was a tie, some trick (probably longest 2-hand looping for yo-yos), was used as a tie breaker. For example, in 1963 11 year old Rusty Steubin won the Duncan US National Spintop Championship ($52,000 in today's dollars) in a tie breaker that consisted on spinning a top inside a slinky toy. :o

After the freestyle competitions were introduced, the ladder remained as a division for players that could not freestyle (ladder sports division). In addition, there was a list of tricks, the "compulsories", used to qualify for the freestyles finals. In tops we stopped having the compulsories around 2006. We had the spintop sports division until around 2015 at worlds, although in the last years it was not really a ladder but a trick pick list, with the tricks having different values. Perhaps the last true spintop sports ladder at worlds or US nationals was in 2012 (I could check the exact dates if you want). Some regional contests (like the one that Jon Gates runs in Denver) might still have a sports ladder.
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well written

thanx for this recap

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I competed in yo-yo string trick ladder contests, no looping. I remember towards the end of the ladder I did suicide catches, green triangle suicide and spirit bomb. It started very basic and built in to significantly difficult.
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