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Title: Rip-King
Post by: kevinm on October 27, 2009, 07:15:43 PM
today i got a couple bearing king kits from infinite illusions with the thought of
converting two rip-cords. the kits come with two loaded bk tips, so one kit is enough to do
two tops if you have an extra couple duncan bearings, or you could use the bearing from the extra tip
to do one with the double bearing set up.
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: poptop on October 27, 2009, 08:13:19 PM
Right on.  I was wondering if anyone has ever replaced the BK's duncan bearings with some of the higher quality yo-yo bearings?  YYF spec? Ceramic?

I seem to recall that Jeffs put a YYF dorothy bearing in his QS--anyone else?
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: gunhawk on October 27, 2009, 09:04:52 PM
today i got a couple bearing king kits from infinite illusions with the thought of
converting two rip-cords. the kits come with two loaded bk tips, so one kit is enough to do
two tops if you have an extra couple duncan bearings, or you could use the bearing from the extra tip
to do one with the double bearing set up.

Since Duncan is dragging their feet putting out a new Bearing King I've been considering trying this myself.  Let us know how it works out.

Ed
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: kevinm on October 27, 2009, 09:53:11 PM
it seems to work very well to me, but i am seriously just a beginner, so maybe the better bearing would be an advantage to a skilled player. i did clean the bearings and put a little yyj thin lube on them. my guess is for the
quality of the top and the plastic tip you are stuck with, the duncan bearings work fine.
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: Darren Kim on October 27, 2009, 11:35:46 PM
Best way that I got the long spinning duncan tips was que-tipping mineral spirits on the bearing, then lightly lubing it with yyj thin lube. I used "Rip-Kings" for my bearing freestyle, and some times you don't even need the second bearing! If you clean out the bearing hole in the top with mineral spirits, the dryness should create more friction, so the tip can stay in w/o the 2nd bearing.
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: gunhawk on October 28, 2009, 12:30:37 AM
it seems to work very well to me, but i am seriously just a beginner, so maybe the better bearing would be an advantage to a skilled player. i did clean the bearings and put a little yyj thin lube on them. my guess is for the
quality of the top and the plastic tip you are stuck with, the duncan bearings work fine.

Did the bearing kits come with instructions?
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: RunBMC on October 28, 2009, 07:37:45 AM
your already a gold member gun hawk? :o ive been on this thing for monthes and im still not gold member!;D
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: kevinm on October 28, 2009, 09:03:59 AM
Did the bearing kits come with instructions?
not exactly, but it's very easy, i did it at work when i was supposed to be working.
if you leave out the bearing cleaning process, all you have to do is open the top, and push a bearing (straight) into the recess in the bottom, just like it is in a BK. i used a
small socket to tap it in, but you could use anything, just try to distribute the pressure so you don't knock the bearing apart. a bearing spacer from the yoyo kit would be great if you don't have a suitable rod or something. also some spray silicone makes things move easier.
then you just remove the o-ring from the loaded axle in the kit, push it in, and put the o-ring back on from the inside.

Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: Pulpowsky on October 28, 2009, 11:58:35 AM
So simply.  ;) [Video below]

[youtube]kF5U4i92eYA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: gunhawk on October 28, 2009, 07:40:22 PM
your already a gold member gun hawk? :o ive been on this thing for monthes and im still not gold member!;D

I ask a lot of dumb questions and go off topic frequently.  It's easy when you know how.  (-:
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: gunhawk on October 28, 2009, 08:08:52 PM
Pulp

I've seen your instructional video before, but it looks like what you are replacing is a fixed tip, not a bearing tip.  Am I right?   Are you saying that the plastic bearing tip is replaced in exactly the same way as the plastic fixed tip? I have never seen a plastic  bearing tip and I haven't looked at my rip-cord fixed tip , so I'm lost here.  Please elaborate.

Thanks.

Ed
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: gunhawk on October 30, 2009, 10:24:33 AM
Yocephus

Pulp must be too busy to answer, so maybe you can help me out here.

In the video that Pulp provided that's a fixed tip that he's replacing, right?  Is the plastic bearing tip replaced in the same way as a fixed tip?  I've never seen a Bearing King top or tip, so I'm having trouble picturing how to replace a fixed plastic tip in a Rip Cord with a plastic Bearing KIng tip.

Thanks.

Ed
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: ta0 on October 30, 2009, 12:18:41 PM
Here are Pulp's instructions for maintenance of a Bearing King (with a replacement metal bearing tip). I don't play much with Duncans so I have never changed them myself.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOOdzIzjNBM[/youtube]
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: gunhawk on October 30, 2009, 03:19:58 PM
Here are Pulp's instructions for maintenance of a Bearing King (with a replacement metal bearing tip). I don't play much with Duncans so I have never changed them myself.

Thanks Tao.  I saw that one too, but that's not the tip that i'm talking about.  I'm talking about the plastic bearing tip that comes with the Infinite Illusions kit.  I'm not sure that the one in this video installs the same way.

Ed
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: Neff on October 30, 2009, 04:27:59 PM
gunhawk - just get the kit already!  ::)  ;D
All Duncan BK tips are plastic with a metal bearing, they are all the same, and they all fit Rip Chords, and Rip Chords are the exact same mold as BKs.  Ya just stick it in the hole.  The only difficulty is if you decide to install the second bearing - which is completeley optional.  You install the second bearing from inside the top.  To do this, i reccommend using a bolt with wingnuts and washers to "squeeze" the bearing in its hole evenly.  You can leave the second bearing in there and put the fixed tip back in if you so choose.  Once you see the kit in person it will all make sense, I promise.  If not, we can set up a video conference.
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: gunhawk on October 30, 2009, 04:36:32 PM
gunhawk - just get the kit already!  ::)  ;D
All Duncan BK tips are plastic with a metal bearing, they are all the same, and they all fit Rip Chords, and Rip Chords are the exact same mold as BKs.  Ya just stick it in the hole.  The only difficulty is if you decide to install the second bearing - which is completeley optional.  You install the second bearing from inside the top.  To do this, i reccommend using a bolt with wingnuts and washers to "squeeze" the bearing in its hole evenly.  You can leave the second bearing in there and put the fixed tip back in if you so choose.  Once you see the kit in person it will all make sense, I promise.  If not, we can set up a video conference.

Thanks.  I will.  One last question.  Does a BK come out of the package with one bearing or two?

I  beginning to wonder about my communications skills. LOL
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: Neff on October 30, 2009, 04:57:33 PM
Well ya got me there, 'cause I've never opened a bearing king package.  My servants to that for me.  Just kidding, but I seriously don't know.  Also, I'm pretty sure the "kit" does not come with the extra bearing, but you could order one from I.I. - same bearing as in the Freehand.  I've always used BK's with both bearings, but that may be because the BK's I have are prototypes and the lid is friggin' super-glued on, you can't get the bearing out!  This was before Flambeau had figured out the locking mechanism for the cap.  Other bearing tops work just fine with one bearing, should be the same for the BK.
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: kevinm on October 30, 2009, 05:56:37 PM
i forgot the question?
anyways, a bearing king came w/a spare fixed axle, just to add to the confusion here.
the bearing king replacement tip kit you can get from II, has two loaded bearing axles.
if you want to do two rip-cords,  you need two more bearings for the insides.
gunhawk, if you remove the tip from the ripcord, you will see the fixed tip has a round end where it enters the
body, that recess in the body is exactly the size to receive the bearing from the bearing king axle.
when you open the top and look into the bottom of the body, you will see a round hole there too, it wil take the other
bearing, you just have to shove it in there, it is a tight fit, but it's just plastic, so you know, just tap it in with something, then you can put the bk tip in from the bottom, replace the little oring, and you are done.
honestly it's very easy, i have even done it sober.
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: gunhawk on October 30, 2009, 07:52:28 PM
>>i forgot the question?<<

ROTFLMAO!!  Is this a pisser or what?

>>honestly it's very easy<<

I recall my Air Force recruiter telling me the same thing about Basic Training. (-:

Thanks for your help man.  I'll shout out to you guys when i get the kit.

Ed


Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: kevinm on October 30, 2009, 07:59:00 PM
live and learn, please help put the word out,
NEVER believe a recruiter.
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: agentsac on October 30, 2009, 08:04:07 PM
in case you're wondering...

a bearing king comes with the inside bearing pre-installed. that's one of the differences between BK and ripcord. the BK also has a weight ring (big o-ring) that goes in the cap. besides those two differences, they are identical. the BK was designed to play as a fixed or bearing top and comes with both kinds of tips in the package as yocephus said.
Title: Re: Rip-King
Post by: gunhawk on October 30, 2009, 08:28:45 PM
>>in case you're wondering...<<

...and I always am. (-:

>>a bearing king comes with the inside bearing pre-installed. <<

A-HA!  The plot thickens...and I learn a little more. (-: