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Title: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on December 03, 2014, 01:10:25 PM
As you all know the world yo-yo contest will take place in Tokyo, Japan, next year (www.tokyo15.com).
We have discussed if we should also have the world spintop contest there, the main issue being if there would be spintop competitors that would be able to attend.

This morning I received an email from Hiro, asking for help judging a spintop contest in Tokyo and also inquiring about the possibility of including koma. Obviously, having Japanese players, either traditional koma or modern spintop, competing at worlds would be a great leap for the community.  In addition, I hear possible interest from YYF and Cometa in having spintop players competing in Japan, so it is possible (but not certain) that we would have an adequate (or even significant) contingent of players.

It seems to me that all the stars are aligning for having the 2015 World Spintop Contest in Tokyo. It is risky and challenging, but could be a great opportunity to expand our community.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on December 03, 2014, 07:24:54 PM
i wonder if theyll have a kendama competition there aswell?
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: studio42 on December 03, 2014, 09:31:33 PM
They might have a kendama exhibition, but they already have major kendama contests earlier in the year from what I understand.

It would make sense to just roll all the skill toy stuff into one mega competition. But, wouldn't it be up to the IYYC to decide what they'll allow?
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Hrosik on December 05, 2014, 03:35:18 PM
In my opinion is best to have spintop together with yoyo worlds and never divide them into two separate contests. I like the yoyo community and what I always heard from Czech (and other) yoyo players, they always enjoy spintop division. Only problem is having enough players, but I doubt that separating spintop from yoyo contests make it better. Only if Worlds would be held in Columbia, like Jorge said, number of players wouldn't be a problem. But I like the style of Worlds where every year Worlds are located on different place (continent).

And me and Jakub would like to travel to Tokyo too, but I'm not sure if we'll have enough money, it's pretty expensive way over there to Japan. But we would like to compete in Tokyo too for sure.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on December 06, 2014, 11:20:17 AM
If you or Jakub could come it would be fantastic. Perhaps Energia would want to sponsor the next world champion?  ;)

I do think that eventually we will have to separate from the yo-yo contest. I dream of a really large top contest with many styles and divisions, plus battles, etc.   ;D We will see . . .

Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on December 06, 2014, 05:30:29 PM
If you or Jakub could come it would be fantastic. Perhaps Energia would want to sponsor the next world champion?  ;)


if him or jakub did come to japan......... no one would have a chance against them @-@
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: studio42 on December 06, 2014, 07:42:19 PM
I haven't been able to go to a Worlds contest, and unless I'm running sound production for it, I doubt I will make it.

All I can compare it to is US Nationals. I went to the yoyo contest in 2012 and 2013. I could not go in 2014 as I had a gig in my home town so I was unable to attend. I go for the yoyo contest, but my interest in spintops has been rising steadily.

The spintop contest is sort of shoved in the back. Not cool. I'm strongly tempted to drive my truck up to Chico and load in a full concert grade PA and give the spintop contest the full on rock-star treatment. Odds are I'd end up using a smaller PA I use for prelims at CalStates and BAC as it would be sufficient.

I think spintop should just piggy-back on the yoyo contest. It saves costs and expenses. At least at Worlds, Spintop takes mains stage. For all the efforts these people do, it's shouldn't be any other way.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Dick Stohr on December 06, 2014, 10:19:56 PM
The main problem for US Nationals is time during a one day event. Since it us during the school year another day is just not available. So one day, limited stage time, a lot of yo-yo competitors, it is THE yo-yo event, put on by the US National Yo-Yo Museum folks. Giving spin tops another stage is about the best they can do.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Dale on December 17, 2014, 09:45:32 AM
As far as should we have the 2015 top contest in Tokyo, without a doubt. The only way to build the top event to sustainable levels is to have the help of the yo-yo community.
We should have some sort of combined/separate division for the traditional Koma players just as we had for the Columbian players. I have seen some Koma performances and they are quite good.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Dick Stohr on December 17, 2014, 09:06:55 PM
In the 1990's World Yo-Yo contest was a part of IJA. Yo-Yoing got too big and had other problems with IJA and split off for its own event. When the time comes that Spin Top needs to be a separate event we will know and will have the resources and leadership to move on. Until Spin Top gets too big and can not be accommodated buy the Yo-Yo events it needs to say thank you very much and be supportive of the host events.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Neff on December 17, 2014, 11:44:29 PM
Nationals is anything but accommodating to the spin top element.  I'm not sure about the new and improved World Contest, but it sure did not seem like the crowd was into those amazing freestyles that were delivered.

I do not object to Japan 2015, but I honestly feel the yo-yo audience is the wrong audience for spin tops.  Growth has been so, so slow.  I believe it is because so few players manage to look cool while spinning tops.  It just looks hard most of the time. Nobody wants to look a fool. The only place you will get a descent audience is where kids already play tops, like in Mexico.

Spin top players within the yo-yo community have done many things for spin tops, in and out of the events, but it is hard for me to see what yo-yoing in general does to support spin tops.  The only reason spin top contests are at yo-yo events is because in the U.S. spin tops are only made by yo-yo manufacturers.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on December 18, 2014, 12:34:14 PM
I basically agree with Neff that in the long term the yo-yo community limits our growth. It has been great to piggy back on their contests and I am very thankful for that. But there is a glass ceiling we will never be able to break. Who travels to a major yo-yo contest? Players who have committed to the toy thousands upon thousand of hours. Very few will be interested in seriously taking another skill toy (with some notable exceptions, like Tyler). I bet no kendama champions have come from the (serious) yo-yo community.

At Chico I feel the support has been mixed. Last year it was wonderful that we were supplied with our own backdrop. But this year I felt we were "penalized".

I am not sure what will happen in Tokyo. It could be disappointing or it could be a break through with Japanese players competing.  We will see.

There is chicken-egg problem involved. We need enough players to organize great contests and great contest to attract players. My vision for a great spintop meet is one that combines many forms of spintop play, the freestyles being the star show, but also having top battles and lots of other spintop challenges. That is something unlikely to happen inside a yo-yo contest.

I am aware of some spintop promotion campaigns in new markets for 2015 and I am optimistic about the future.

Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: jim in paris on December 19, 2014, 01:29:43 AM
hi all

worlds 2015 in japan is OK i do not see any other possibility in the next few months
but we know that very few of us will be able/can afford a trip to Japan
over the past years the W YY contest has inflated a lot : number of players, management etc....whereas for tops we have not grown!difficult to complain:--)
at the same time we know how much bigger tops are worldwide with the incredible variety of practises and contests: duration,battles,precision,sport,team games etc...
with this perspective , our format of a 3mn freestyle on music is marginal

it's the goal of ITSA, to try and create a different pattern
 2015 will be a  gap-year

jim
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on January 09, 2015, 05:30:43 PM
We have made contact with the Japanese koma association and the group around the Nagoya museum. They are very interested in participating.
We still need to figure out how that is going to happen (if they will freestyle with us like the Colombians did or have a separate contest).

Taka is also very interested in having tops there. I don't know if he would compete and, if he does, if he would use modern tops or traditional komas. But he is taking classes from Fujita-san himself.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: CUPER on January 09, 2015, 06:35:00 PM
q tal zaludoz a los del foro  yo te comento jorge mi idea es asistir a tokio estoy en la idea de ir,ojala di a dia ball creziendo el evento ke para esto faltan muchos detalles  que se tendran q afinar ....
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: studio42 on January 10, 2015, 03:49:11 AM
Is spin top competition for this contest still divided into a fixed tip division and a bearing tip division?
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: jim in paris on January 10, 2015, 04:42:02 AM
Is spin top competition for this contest still divided into a fixed tip division and a bearing tip division?

no not at all

all tops whether big or small ,bearing , fix tip or OWB are in the same 3 mn freestyle contest
there might be a separate division for koma players (still in discussion)

jim
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on January 10, 2015, 10:17:05 AM
q tal zaludoz a los del foro  yo te comento jorge mi idea es asistir a tokio estoy en la idea de ir,ojala di a dia ball creziendo el evento ke para esto faltan muchos detalles  que se tendran q afinar ....

It would be great if you could come to Tokyo, Cuper! ¡Ojalá puedas venir!

Is spin top competition for this contest still divided into a fixed tip division and a bearing tip division?

no not at all

all tops whether big or small ,bearing , fix tip or OWB are in the same 3 mn freestyle contest
there might be a separate division for koma players (still in discussion)

jim

As Jim said. The freestyle rules as they stand now are here:

www.ispintop.com/freestyle-rules.html

The main difference from last year is that there would be a penalty for winding the top during the freestyle.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: CUPER on January 11, 2015, 02:03:58 AM
si jorge si estoy quiero ir me gustaria ponerme de acuerdo con tigo y platicar sabez tengo muchas dudas del evento en si y les comento me agradaria ir a tokio ...zaludoz
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on February 13, 2015, 12:49:41 PM
From Taka:

Quote
I had meeting with MrFujita and he agreed to come to worlds.
And he can compete or judge.
He will also bring his top student who is national champion.
Both of them can do Koma and Spintop.They have great skill for it.

1)Sports ladder
Include corkscrew, most of tricks can be done by Koma. But need adjustment. So now I'm working with Japanese player, MrFujita and trying to make Spintop and Koma trick list. I will show draft later.

2)freestyle
They said they never do that, so first year, they can join, but just like experiment.
So they said no need rule adjustment. Same as current rule is ok.

 :) :) 8) 8)

PS: Airfare has gone down since I started looking. Hopefully the trend will continue a little more (crossing fingers).
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Larry D. on February 13, 2015, 04:19:02 PM
From Taka:

Quote
I had meeting with MrFujita and he agreed to come to worlds.
And he can compete or judge.
He will also bring his top student who is national champion.
Both of them can do Koma and Spintop.They have great skill for it.

1)Sports ladder
Include corkscrew, most of tricks can be done by Koma. But need adjustment. So now I'm working with Japanese player, MrFujita and trying to make Spintop and Koma trick list. I will show draft later.

2)freestyle
They said they never do that, so first year, they can join, but just like experiment.
So they said no need rule adjustment. Same as current rule is ok.

 :) :) 8) 8)

PS: Airfare has gone down since I started looking. Hopefully the trend will continue a little more (crossing fingers).

Now that's some good news!  8)
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on February 19, 2015, 11:17:19 PM
It was decided that instead of a sports ladder there will be a Japanese style contest with the format they have been using. I have asked them to post videos of the tricks. I will try to practice them and enter that contest.   ;)
Spintops will have its own dedicated area, with carpet floor: Yeah!  :)

The freestyles will be Saturday around noon on the main stage (Friday night in the US). I am guessing I will have to freestyle to increase the number of competitors. But I am not complaining: it will be super-cool to be on that stage!

If you would like to come but assume it is too expensive, it may be a little less than you think. Airfares have come down and I discovered that if I choose Flight + Hotel in Travelocity (I bet it is the same in Expedia and Orbitz) I get seven (7) nights of a 3 or 4 star hotel (no capsule hotel!) for practically free. In fact, for 2 people it would cost less per person than the airfare without hotel!   ???
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on February 20, 2015, 05:49:07 AM
So, you are definitely going.  That sounds great.  Even greater is the information about the cost!

Glad to hear things are working out for top spinning competitions.  And our own dedicated area that is carpeted sounds terrific.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on February 21, 2015, 07:34:20 PM
im really excited to see the vids this year @-@ i hope there will be of the komas
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on March 27, 2015, 11:45:44 AM
It seems like the good news of robtsou should be on this thread.  Looking forward to hearing how your spinning preparations are progressing as you get ready for Tokyo Worlds 2015.  It is wonderful to hear you will be attending the event.  I also look forward to hearing other comments from you about your travel and your adventures over there!!! 
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on March 28, 2015, 12:03:54 PM
With robtsou and kyo coming we have modding covered  :)

But, aren't you coming Eric? How do you say lathe in Japanese?
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: jim in paris on March 28, 2015, 02:30:25 PM
lathe = Senban

but they turn in the other direction!!

 ;D

jim
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Eric on March 28, 2015, 05:32:10 PM
"...but they turn in the other direction!!..."

That sounds terrifying...... :o
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on March 28, 2015, 09:08:42 PM
lathe = Senban

but they turn in the other direction!!

 ;D

jim

holy hell!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: kyo on March 31, 2015, 01:48:47 AM
For those going.. when will you be there and where are you staying?

My wife and I are planning the trip currently.. looks like we're stopping in Hawaii for a few days then heading to Tokyo on the 9th :)

Kyle
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on March 31, 2015, 11:17:50 AM
I am arriving in Tokyo the 12th and staying until the 20th. I will be staying at MyStays Ochanomizu, a six-minute walk from the contest.
I plan to go to Nagoya after the contest and visit the koma museum (after making friends with the koma players at the contest  ;) ).

SEE YOU IN TOKYO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q_erEY5pv4
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Larry D. on March 31, 2015, 02:06:02 PM
I plan to go to Nagoya after the contest and visit the koma museum...

Jorge,  Be sure to call or email them before you go to the museum. 
           As their web site says:

? It is not decided closed day. Please be visitors Make sure must always phone or e-mail.
? ? important is we do not routinely closed day. Please be visitors Make sure must always phone or e-mail.
Phone: 052-661-3671
komako@yk.commufa.jp
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on March 31, 2015, 04:08:09 PM
Thanks for the advise Larry, but it won't be necessary. Mr. Yoshihito Fujita himself will come to Tokyo on Friday: he will organize and judge the traditional koma competition. I am hoping to get a private tour of his museum  ;) In fact, I wouldn't mind staying overnight in Nagoya and sleeping on the floor of the museum, surrounded by all those tops  ;D
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Larry D. on March 31, 2015, 04:22:44 PM
In fact, I wouldn't mind staying overnight in Nagoya and sleeping on the floor of the museum, surrounded by all those tops  ;D

That would make for some sweet dreams!  :)

BTW, did you notice that the Museum sells Astro Spin?

They sure look like the tops we picked up when we were in Rochester last year visiting Don.  I never knew they had a name but here is the description photo and from the Museum site:

“Product Name Manufacturer You have a cool name "Astro spin". Dead is stock goods. Spreads wings when rotated at high speed. Spread wings is safe because the round shape.  Made plastic. Cannot be selected color.”

Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on March 31, 2015, 05:44:08 PM
Nice! I broke the one I got from Don trying to boomerang it  :'( I have been meaning to repair it, but it won't be easy. If I can get a new one it would be great!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on March 31, 2015, 09:37:33 PM
So, how many top spinners can you find in that "See You in Tokyo" video?

How many are on this forum?

I don't know the definitive answers, I just came up with the questions.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on March 31, 2015, 11:55:25 PM
I counted nine top spinners! Of course, most are primarily yo-yo players, although they can do intermediate to advanced top tricks. Only two or three ever registered in this forum, but seven are in the Figaro Gallery!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: robtsou on April 01, 2015, 01:03:30 AM
I'm scheduled for the 9th through the 20th.  The hotel I'm in is right on top of the Akihabara train station, I believe it's the Remm Akihabara.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on April 01, 2015, 01:35:15 AM
although they can do intermediate to advanced top tricks.

this is something i often wonder about, what exactly is considered ''intermediate'' and whats considered ''advanced''? who knows? i dont.....
also why do i have to press shift when i want a question mark? its not like im constantly writing forward slashes is it?  :o
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on April 21, 2015, 01:51:22 PM
This is the Spintop page:

 http://tokyo15.com/en/contest-divisions/spintop/

Funny that there is the photo of a BK but I don't think anybody freestyled with a Duncan in Prague.

Quote
On Saturday between the Prelim and Final Rounds, we will have a special program (trick test, contest, demo, etc.) going on at the B1 Spin Top Area organized by Japan Spinning Top Museum.
:)

Registration for spintops is JPY 3000 (about $25) plus general admission. General admission is $21 for one day, $63 for all days.

I hear that a new spintop company may be sponsoring a couple of players.  :-X

Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: lincolnrick on April 21, 2015, 03:52:29 PM

I hear that a new spintop company may be sponsoring a couple of players.  :-X


A new new company or one that we know of that just hasn't sponsored players before?  Come on, we won't tell.  ;)
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on April 21, 2015, 04:55:04 PM
I hear that a new spintop company may be sponsoring a couple of players.  :-X
A new new company or one that we know of that just hasn't sponsored players before?  Come on, we won't tell.  ;)

New spintop company. New market. What looks like the biggest promotion ever. I just found out and I cannot tell more, but it is very exciting for the future of spintops.

By the way, this is the logo of the World Yo-Yo Contest:

(http://www.tokyo15.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/WYYC2015-official-logo.jpg)

Anybody wants to design one for the Top contest?
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Kirk on April 21, 2015, 11:39:12 PM
New spintop company. New market. What looks like the biggest promotion ever. I just found out and I cannot tell more, but it is very exciting for the future of spintops.
Do we have to wait until August to find out?  :(
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on April 22, 2015, 09:03:52 AM
Yes!  Great idea.  Let's have our own logo for the world championships!!!

Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on April 22, 2015, 11:01:02 AM
New spintop company. New market. What looks like the biggest promotion ever. I just found out and I cannot tell more, but it is very exciting for the future of spintops.
Do we have to wait until August to find out?  :(
I am guessing that it won't be long before I can talk about it. But the worlds sponsorship has not been confirmed yet or the two players selected ... I don't want to change the subject of this thread, but two other things I have heard is that YYF may come out with the "Energia" tops under a new brand name and that Spintastics is planning some radical new models by the end of the year.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on May 18, 2015, 12:05:33 AM
I have registered for the top freestyle and also got my all-days admission (includes a limited edition yo-yo when purchased before June 30).
It seems that the specially designated Spintop Area will be open only Saturday and Sunday.
They finally selected the official contest hotel and it is almost across from mine (they also plan to reserve a floor at a "capsule hotel"  :D )

I guess I can tell that the two players who may be sponsored to compete at worlds are Salvador and Cuper. I hope it is confirmed although it will probably cost me a world title  ;) In addition, Alex Torres said that Marietta and him will try to come.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on May 18, 2015, 05:22:35 AM
I am glad to hear of at least five who have confirmed they will compete.  Maybe someday I will be able to travel and go to these exotic places for competitions?  Until then, I will enjoy the stories of everyone else and their exploits. 
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on May 18, 2015, 09:42:31 AM
I am glad to hear of at least five who have confirmed they will compete.  Maybe someday I will be able to travel and go to these exotic places for competitions?  Until then, I will enjoy the stories of everyone else and their exploits.

hear hear!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: jim in paris on May 18, 2015, 12:22:35 PM
salut Jorge!!
most excellent news
Salvador and Cuper in Japan ?  we must shoot a documentary for the next
Cannes Festival !!
how about gus and the de la rosa bro? Tyler , Daniel etc ... do you plan to go ?
maurizio ?

lucky guys who go there , you will be the ambassadors of spintops
stay creative :--)

jim

ps  :about the change of name for energia tops :
i got the same feedback from the commercial guys i've met during the promotions .. they said that energia in france refers more to a "green" or "organic" product but not at all to a skill toy


Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on July 02, 2015, 12:09:08 PM
Only 42 days left!

Unfortunately, Salvador and Cuper are not coming  :'(  It may be pretty lonely for western top spinners. But I hope it is compensated by a big presence of Japanese top players.

The new logo in full color:

(http://www.tokyo15.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/WYYC2015_FULLCOLOR.jpg)
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on July 02, 2015, 07:03:54 PM
Only 42 days left!

Unfortunately, Salvador and Cuper are not coming  :'(  It may be pretty lonely for western top spinners. But I hope it is compensated by a big presence of Japanese top players.

The new logo in full color:


that is sad  :'( u must take some pictures ta0 when you go! take some pictures so we can get the feelz man @-@
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on July 06, 2015, 11:42:18 PM
From a list Hironori Mii sent me, the Japanese players registered so far for spintops are:

Takahiko Hasegawa
Daisuke Watanabe
Yoshihito Fujita
Keita Watanabe
Ryoichi Katsukawa
Tsutomu Takeda

We all know Taka. Besides a famous yo-yo guy he has always been interested in tops (recorded the first videos we saw of the Colombian players and also the first real slow motion videos of boomerangs). What you may not know is that he has been touring promoting tops for the last 3 months . . .
Mr. Fujita is the owner of the Nagoya koma museum and founder of the Japanese koma association. I don't expect him to compete.
Keita Watanabe was the 2013 Japanese champion.
Tsutomu Takeda is the main young guy on the koma DVD.

It is not clear if any of these players will freestyle or are just there for the traditional koma ladder. I am guessing Taka will, but I need to ask him. I think Tsutomu would also freestyle.

The only non-Japanese players registered so far are Val and myself. But we are hoping a few more will confirm. Crossing fingers.

Here is a page of all registered contestants (http://tokyo15.com/en/registered-contestants/) although it is not updated in real time.
By the way, total number of contestants registered so far for the world yo-yo contest is just over 500.  Of those, I counted 35 who are from the US.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on July 07, 2015, 10:47:34 AM
Lots of intriguing news.  Glad to hear of that nice number of people registered.  That seems very high for this time of the year.  And Taka with tops.....it sounds so magical!  We have been waiting for this to happen.  Hope lots of those other spinners step up to the whirled stage.

Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: kyo on July 19, 2015, 11:01:47 AM
Hiro has updated the registration page, currently 10 people registered as spin top freestyle.

http://tokyo15.com/en/registered-contestants-by-divisions/

Kyle
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on July 19, 2015, 12:09:20 PM
Hiro has updated the registration page, currently 10 people registered as spin top freestyle.

http://tokyo15.com/en/registered-contestants-by-divisions/

Kyle

wonderful!!! question: who is mr. tsou??? i cant remember  :'( forgive me  :-[

(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/54249449.jpg)
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on July 19, 2015, 02:52:49 PM
I wish there would be 10 for spintop freestyles . . .  ::)
Most of the Japanese registered are just doing the traditional Japanese ladder, I bet. I am hoping that a couple will (Taka, Tsutomu ?) but it may be just a wish.
I don't think Rob is planning to freestyle, either. Anyway, crossing my fingers . . .
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: robtsou on July 20, 2015, 11:23:04 PM
I would love to but I just don't have time to practice! I did however learn to throw beigoma last week!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on July 21, 2015, 12:09:12 AM
I asked Taka and he answered that he will freestyle and so will four of the Japanese from the koma museum. If that is the case, we should be fine.

Twenty three days left!

PS: I was surprised of how many competitors there are for 2A: I counted 55! Shinji Saito is registered. At worlds in Orlando spintops some years had almost as many competitors as 2A! That division should be epic!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on July 21, 2015, 12:16:58 PM
I would love to but I just don't have time to practice! I did however learn to throw beigoma last week!

ahhh i didnt recongnize the name with the spaces @-@ hello rob, please forgive.
beigoma!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on July 21, 2015, 12:18:31 PM

Most of the Japanese registered are just doing the traditional Japanese ladder, I bet.

what is  the traditional japanese ladder? is it the same as ours???
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: kyo on July 21, 2015, 12:34:37 PM
PS: I was surprised of how many competitors there are for 2A: I counted 55! Shinji Saito is registered. At worlds in Orlando spintops some years had almost as many competitors as 2A! That division should be epic!

The explanation of the Japanese scene I got from Hiro is this - in the US 'single A' is considered the pinnacle division.. the others are side divisions. It's why we always place the finals for it last in our competitions. In Japan there is no such view, all divisions are seen as equal and as such, people compete heavily in all of them.

Japan is much more open to new stuff it seems, so it makes sense that spintops/etc can grow there quickly given the right introduction.

Kyle
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on July 21, 2015, 09:56:35 PM
It is good to hear there are a number of people signed up for tops/koma/trompo or whatever for worlds.  I wonder if some of the participants are looking for tips?  Maybe a number of them are watching this site for inside scoops about competing at worlds?  Could we possibly give them any good information that could help them?

Get lots of good practice in during these final days.

Stay relaxed.

Find somebody with a fan so you can stay cool and not be sweating before you hit the stage.

Don't be afraid to use baby powder.

Expect the best but be prepared for the worst.

Don't be scared.  We are with you!!!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on July 23, 2015, 10:20:46 PM
Most of the Japanese registered are just doing the traditional Japanese ladder, I bet.
what is  the traditional japanese ladder? is it the same as ours???

They have a certification list with 6 levels, each level with 5 tricks. I was planning to try to "translate" them but I never had the time. They also have a certain classification of tricks into 4 "mystery" ??? types, each one with 10 tricks. I guess I'll know much more when I come back.

I was trying to translate the announcement (link (http://yantya.yokochou.com/taikai/waza150815/waza150815.html)) of the world contest on the Japanese koma association website. Unfortunately, Google doesn't do a very good job translating. But what I think I understand makes me feel sad that we won't have more people coming. They are talking about prelims with 16 players qualifying for the finals! "Come to see people from around the world, meet master spintop players and make friends from overseas!" Oops, I am feeling the pressure . . . The page encourages the players to participate: "Why not try to challenge the koma technique with four major 'mystery' throw because this is a precious opportunity. I wish everyone a good fight."

Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Mike Durdak on July 31, 2015, 06:31:07 PM
I'm proud to announce that I will be competing in Spintop division as well as 4A YoYo in Japan!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: lincolnrick on July 31, 2015, 06:36:13 PM
Good luck Mike, Ta0 and all the contestants.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on July 31, 2015, 07:48:43 PM
I'm proud to announce that I will be competing in Spintop division as well as 4A YoYo in Japan!

(https://i.imgflip.com/oy54q.jpg)
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on July 31, 2015, 08:26:48 PM
I'm proud to announce that I will be competing in Spintop division as well as 4A YoYo in Japan!

Woohoo!  That is fabulous! We really needed another player competing. Also, it is always great when we get another spintop player stepping up into the freestyles.  8)
From your posts I gather that you have been playing spintops a little over an year, haven't you? But as a 4A player you have a great base so you will do well.
I am bringing Figaro with me to Tokyo, so you will be inducted to the Figaro gallery.  :)

See you in Tokyo!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on July 31, 2015, 10:17:20 PM
Mike: I just watched a video of you doing 4A and the tricks blew my mind! If you stay with tops you could be the next Tyler Young!

It seems you are from Cleveland. Do you ever throw with Steve Brown? Anybody else?
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Mike Durdak on July 31, 2015, 11:59:52 PM
I learned to throw tops about a year after I started yoyoing (wow, I've yoyoed for five years, making my Spintop career 4 years old!), but never learned too much until I figured out regens 1.5-2 years ago. I've done Spintop on and off since then. I was planning on filming for all of my patches in one go this summer, but have been too lazy to do so thus far  :P . I can't wait to meet you guys in Tokyo, Miamisburg, or LA this year!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Mike Durdak on August 01, 2015, 12:06:33 AM
Back when the Cleveland YoYo Club was still a thing, I would occasionally talk to Steve about tops. When I was just starting out, one year at the Ohio State YoYo contest, Takeshi Kamisato helped me with binds for Mach 5s and basic top maintainence. I've also met Chris Neff and Mike Hout at past Worlds. Thanks for your kind words. I hope to do well in both divisions at worlds.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on August 01, 2015, 05:27:43 AM
Yea!!!  I met Mike Durdak.  Who the heck are you?

Sorry, just having some fun.  But to tell the truth, I have you narrowed down to a couple of guys.  There are just so many people coming and going at Worlds.  Wishing you the best in Tokyo.  I am so glad to hear you are competing.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on August 03, 2015, 02:29:15 PM
I saw some Mike Durdak videos.  Good work!  I am excited to see you with spin tops.

I also saw the website for the world yoyo championships in Tokyo.  Looks like plans are already there for one minute prelims in spin tops.  That sounds like there will be a lot of competitors!!!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on August 04, 2015, 11:17:19 AM
I saw some Mike Durdak videos.  Good work!  I am excited to see you with spin tops.

I also saw the website for the world yoyo championships in Tokyo.  Looks like plans are already there for one minute prelims in spin tops.  That sounds like there will be a lot of competitors!!!
As of 7/30 Mike was registered only on 4A, so I guess he registered for tops the 31st.
The prelims were scheduled before registration started. I doubt there will be a need for them.

How many top related people do you recognize in this screen capture?:

(http://ta0.com/photos/images/contests/Worlds15_Tokyo/tokyo2015-screen-capture_tops_9days.jpg)

Nine days left for the start of the festivities!  :)
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on August 04, 2015, 11:56:54 AM
How many top related people do you recognize in this screen capture?:

all of theeeeeeeemmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@-@
except for that blue fellow second to left............don't think i know him  :o
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on August 04, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
How many top related people do you recognize in this screen capture?:
all of theeeeeeeemmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@-@ except for that blue fellow second to left............don't think i know him  :o
:)

I see five without straining my eyes. Anybody else?
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on August 04, 2015, 07:30:36 PM
I saw some Mike Durdak videos.  Good work!  I am excited to see you with spin tops.

I also saw the website for the world yoyo championships in Tokyo.  Looks like plans are already there for one minute prelims in spin tops.  That sounds like there will be a lot of competitors!!!
As of 7/30 Mike was registered only on 4A, so I guess he registered for tops the 31st.
The prelims were scheduled before registration started. I doubt there will be a need for them.

How many top related people do you recognize in this screen capture?:

(http://ta0.com/photos/images/contests/Worlds15_Tokyo/tokyo2015-screen-capture_tops_9days.jpg)

Nine days left for the start of the festivities!  :)

 i count 6 @-@


also whoever can manage to get me an autograph from that woman on any damned thing from toilet paper to king tuts crown i will send thee 3 top toques (and perhaps bonus content  :o) as ransom @-@
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Dick Stohr on August 04, 2015, 09:27:59 PM
I know Ann Connolly and will send you her autograph, message me your address.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on August 04, 2015, 09:52:02 PM
I know Ann Connolly and will send you her autograph, message me your address.

pm sent and my giggling cannot stop  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
you sir are a real fellow if i do say so myself  ;)
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on August 05, 2015, 01:22:20 AM
I don't know who is your six one, but Ann is definitely one of them as the daughter of Tom (yothomas), the owner of several big tops and multiple times spintop freestyler.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on August 05, 2015, 01:30:41 AM
I don't know who is your six one.

chinese fellow left of your picture  ;)
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on August 05, 2015, 12:03:06 PM
I don't know who is your six one.

chinese fellow left of your picture  ;)

I was counting Taka (who is Japanese). But I guess you are counting the blue fellow :P
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on August 05, 2015, 06:10:35 PM
I don't know who is your six one.

chinese fellow left of your picture  ;)

I was counting Taka (who is Japanese). But I guess you are counting the blue fellow :P

hahaaa!!! the quizer became the quizie @_@!!!!! either that or im just covering up for my inability to count proper  :P

i am confused as to why they used a picture of a bk though instead of a player  ???
question: taka is japanese??? does he play with komas aswell???
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on August 05, 2015, 09:02:20 PM
i am confused as to why they used a picture of a bk though instead of a player  ???
question: taka is japanese??? does he play with komas aswell???

They put the picture of a top because they felt some yo-yo players may not know what a spintop is  ::)

Taka (Takahiko Hasegawa) is mainly a famous yo-yo player. He learned the basics of spintops around 2000 (encouraged by Dale, I bet) and has shown some interest over the years. Now that he was hired by a Chinese company to promote spintops he must be playing a lot more. The last couple of years he has been learning koma from the Nagoya group.
Title: Corkscrew Challenge
Post by: ta0 on August 08, 2015, 01:41:22 PM
Tyler offered to send me the Corkscrew Challenge trophy to take to Tokyo. But I don't see the challenge happening over there. I think that this year nats would be a better place to have it. However, if there is a group that wants to do it in Tokyo (fixed tip perhaps?), we can still have it, and I can ship to the trophy to the winner.

I am leaving Tuesday morning (and arriving Wednesday, Japan's time). Almost there: cannot believe it!  :o
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on August 08, 2015, 01:51:47 PM
Time is getting close and we are all excited for you and everyone going to Tokyo.  Hope your travels go smoothly and we are anxious to hear about how it all goes.  I will be on vacation in Gatlinburg, Tennessee (probably not much spinning action there) and ready to read any top spinning news available!!!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on August 10, 2015, 10:05:37 PM
Dale and Val are already traveling and will be there tomorrow.

I will not sleep much tonight, in part to prepare for the jet lag but also because I still need to finish preparing the luggage and the tops. If I have time I will attach one of the new ITSA patches to a shirt. Tomorrow, early flight to Chicago, over 12-hour-long flight to Tokyo, 90 minutes by 2 trains from Narita to the hotel: I should be pretty exhausted Wednesday night. Hopefully by Saturday I would have rested enough to hit a top with the string  ::)
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: lincolnrick on August 11, 2015, 10:48:01 AM
Safe travels everyone.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on August 11, 2015, 12:43:54 PM
Waiting for long flight.
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on August 11, 2015, 03:40:55 PM
Waiting for long flight.

hahaaaaa!!! very excite!!!!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on August 11, 2015, 06:03:13 PM
Could the nine ball represent a nine hour flight that awaits you?
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: yollector on August 11, 2015, 06:26:18 PM
 Worlds live feed.
you can find the link on yoyo News.
If it as good as last years it should
be Awesome.
            RFC
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on August 11, 2015, 06:49:46 PM
Could the nine ball represent a nine hour flight that awaits you?

heavy @-@
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: ta0 on August 12, 2015, 05:22:58 AM
Could the nine ball represent a nine hour flight that awaits you?
I wished! It was 12 hours 8 minutes actually airborne according to my stop watch. It doesn't really crss the Pacific but flies over the Bering strait.
Anyway, I am in Tokyo!!! :)
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on August 12, 2015, 12:33:40 PM
I don't know who Eric gave the 12 ball top to!?!?!?
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Dick Stohr on August 25, 2015, 06:12:43 PM
I know Ann Connolly and will send you her autograph, message me your address.

pm sent and my giggling cannot stop  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
you sir are a real fellow if i do say so myself  ;)

I got a package today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU JACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The top plays very well, and slow wire walkers will be useful for some demos.
The 3 Toques are cute, my wife said so, and they look like they will keep the tops warm this winter.
The beer bottle cap is a keeper, the only one in my collection.
Thanks again JACK!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tokyo Worlds 2015
Post by: Jack on August 25, 2015, 09:14:02 PM
I know Ann Connolly and will send you her autograph, message me your address.

pm sent and my giggling cannot stop  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
you sir are a real fellow if i do say so myself  ;)

I got a package today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU JACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The top plays very well, and slow wire walkers will be useful for some demos.
The 3 Toques are cute, my wife said so, and they look like they will keep the tops warm this winter.
The beer bottle cap is a keeper, the only one in my collection.
Thanks again JACK!!!!!!!!!!

no problem, glad you liked em, it was a privalidge to send them to you eh. thank you sir  ;)