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ta0

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Very big top first spun (teaser)
« on: December 20, 2013, 02:28:48 PM »

I don't often do teasers, but here is one.  I have been working on a new spintop for the last month.  It is over 1 meter in both diameter and height  :o somewhat reminiscent to the giant Taiwanese tops (but considerably lighter.)  Yesterday, for the first time, I got it to stand up and spin.  Hopefully I can finish some details tomorrow and wow my neighbors when I spin it at the front of the house (if it is not raining).  I'll get a video up if everything works out.   :-X  ;D
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Re: Very big top first spun (teaser)
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2013, 02:31:38 PM »

It's an early Christmas!! Can't wait to see your project Ta0!
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Re: Very big top first spun (teaser)
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 07:35:17 PM »

Congratulations on getting it spinning! 
I can’t wait to see the video ta0. 

I hope the sun shines for you (and us).  ;D
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Re: Very big top first spun (teaser)
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 09:29:30 PM »

Very good and merry Topmas!
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Re: Very big top first spun (teaser)
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 11:05:48 PM »

one metre !!  ;D ;D ;D
you need a security line !! ;)

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Re: Very big top first spun (teaser)
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2013, 10:12:38 PM »

It rained . . . in the morning.  It cleared up in the afternoon but I wanted to do some last minute modding on the top and did not have time to try it outside. Tomorrow for sure . . .  ;)
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Air Top
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2013, 01:09:18 PM »

Here it is!  ;D



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Re: Very big top first spun (teaser)
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2013, 01:49:29 PM »

Another MONUMENTAL production by you ta0!
Well done!
Happy Holidays!  ;D
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Re: Very big top first spun (teaser)
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2013, 02:15:02 PM »

Great idea.  Love it. 10/10. A++. 
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Re: Very big top first spun (teaser)
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2013, 02:51:17 PM »

 :o :o :o

Fantastic!!!
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Re: Very big top first spun (teaser)
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2013, 03:02:00 PM »

Muy bueno.  "Making of" video or pics?  ;D
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Re: Very big top first spun (teaser)
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2013, 05:57:03 PM »

Thanks guys!

I had wanted to make a big top decoration that rotated for several years and finally this year I remembered to start early enough.  To my surprise I could not find online instructions on how to make these kind of inflatables, so I had to figure it out.  It was more work than I anticipate but it was fun.  I'll try to post some photographs and what I learned later tonight.
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Re: Very big top first spun (teaser)
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2013, 06:27:41 PM »

Yes, very good.  And the timing of the spinning/inflating was great, too.

So, you made that inflatable all by yourself?  Very nice.
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Re: Very big top first spun (teaser)
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2013, 09:29:46 PM »

Wow very nice. And Merry Christmas Tao, and all top throwers.
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Re: Very big top first spun (teaser)
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2013, 12:27:47 AM »

The fabric is rip-stop nylon, that I found in many colors at the local Joann store but you can also buy online for just $8 $5.60 per linear yard, 59" wide (I bet it is great to make kites).

The top is made by a series of truncated cones and cylinders, plus a flat top, but with pressure the edges become rounded, what in this case was nice.  If you cut a cylinder and lay it flat it becomes a rectangle.  A cone lays flat as a sector of a circle.  To calculate the dimensions of the panels you only need to draw the profile and at each change of slope (corresponding to a seam) write down the distance from the axis and the height. A couple of equations gives you the radiuses and lengths of the arcs you have to draw.  This top has two vertical seams, so each section (except the top and bottom) is made of two panels. They get pretty big fast, and arcs can have centers far outside the fabric. So I had the fabric taped to the floor, a string tied on one end to a heavy base that acted as a center and I was on my knees marking the circles with a fabric pencil.  I cut the panels leaving half an inch edge for sewing.

So, you made that inflatable all by yourself?  Very nice.
Actually, Beatriz joined the panels with a sewing machine (and some hand stitching), which was a considerable part of the work. She did it on the inside and then pulled the whole thing inside-out through the 4" cylindrical opening at the bottom.

To inflate the top I used a 1/8 HP, 120 CFM blower (XPower  BR-2C01A), the smallest commercial blower I could find, that I bought used (new sells for $50 plus shipping through Amazon.)  There are some oversize computer fans that could have worked, but I wanted to make sure I had enough air to make it rotate.

The blower feeds a 3.5" pvc pipe that goes into the top to inflate it and serves as the spin axis. Some air is lost there but I wanted a loose fitting to avoid friction.



It was very important that the top rotated. I accomplished that by having two jets of air on opposite sides of the rim:



I made those by overlapping 4 inches of fabric at the seams of the rim band. One end of each of the 5" wide panels widened so it would leave a gap for the air to exit. They blow quite a bit of air. I made sure the jets pushed the top counter-clockwise  ;)

Unfortunately, when I first tried this design, it would fold at the neck of the tip and the top would not get vertical.  So I first added a 1" pvc pipe at the center to make it stand up.  It worked pretty well, specially when I added at the end a big bearing I had.  But it made a protuberance at the crown so I tried to make a bigger support.  Beatriz did not like the idea of opening the top and sewing it again, so I came up with a tube ring supported by three spokes that I could assemble inside through the 4" opening (like putting a ship inside a bottle):



As you can see on the video it worked very well (it spins at 30+ RPMs).
« Last Edit: December 24, 2013, 01:13:56 AM by ta0 »
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