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Cymbal Monkey

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A top for looks
« on: November 14, 2010, 09:50:27 PM »




I'm rather looking forward to this...
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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2010, 12:17:19 PM »

Hmmm?! 

Good luck!!!
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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2010, 03:15:14 PM »

We are all looking forward to the metamorphosis from dead wood to spinning wood  :)
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Cymbal Monkey

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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2010, 05:24:11 PM »

It's called Thuya, a Moroccan burl that grows underground and costs an arm and a leg. I swear, when I get it, I'm saving it for when I can turn half as well as Alan or Eric, because that wood cost me more than a standard metal yoyo.
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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2010, 06:39:42 PM »

Beautiful piece of wood Dylan.  I bought a very similar piece of Thuya burl seven or eight years ago (on eBay!) and used part of it to make the top below - hollow, 2 1/2" in diameter, 3" tall, YYJ bearing tip, matching button.  This is my wife Dorothy's favorite top.  Thuya burl turns smoothly and easily, has great consistent density, and it has a wonderful musky smell that lasts; you will love working with it.  After I saw your post I picked my top up and played with it for a while; it still smells cool and, it still plays as smoothly as it did when I made it.  This last point is amazing; very few wooden tops and yo-yo that I've ever made have exhibited so little movement in the wood over seven+ years.  The only other solid hardwoods that stay this stable are Blackwood, Gabon Ebony (the jet black stuff - the other Ebonys aren't as good), Lignum Vitae and some Cocobolo.  Plywood stays stable, but it's....plywood......nothing wrong with plywood, I just prefer solid hardwood for my turnings.....expensive preference though... ::)  I still have the rest of the piece, waiting for the right project for it. 

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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2010, 07:50:25 PM »

Amazing! Totally stunning work as always, Eric. Thuya is horribly expensive but when I first saw a picture of it I knew it would become my favorite wood. I've been working almost exclusively with burl, mostly madrone, and I have to say, I love it. Once you get a hand for it I like it more than straight grain.

Oh Eric, what kind of tooling to you recommend for this? I've been using scrapers mostly.
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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 04:31:40 PM »

Tools for tops......it's pretty subjective, some people prefer gouges (principally a detail gouge), some like scrapers, and some use skews......Depending on the application, I use all three.......plus a 1/8" parting tool, which I use as much or more than any other tool.  For top and yo-yo making I use the following:
- The parting tool
- 1/4" round-nose scraper
- 1/8" round-nose scraper that I made from a 1/8" chisel
- 3/16" skew with 60 degree angle on the edge (very pointy, for hard to reach details)
- 1/4" skew
- 1/2" skew
For hollowing I use the two round-nose scrapers and, more and more, I'm using an Easy Wood Tools Ci3 Midsized Finisher.
On tops, I use the parting tool for parting (duh), cleaning up parted edges, shaping the top of the crown and tip sections, and making "steps" for joining sections of the top.  I use the round nose scrapers for the transition between the top of the crown and the first curve, for basic hollowing and for the transition between the body and the Delrin tip section.  I use the skews for shaping the top body and for finishing cuts. I use the EWT finishing tool (small round carbide cutter) for hollowing. 
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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 06:02:20 PM »

That is really good information for turners.  Thanks for typing that, Eric!
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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 07:02:15 PM »

Eric is just made of info like that.
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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2010, 09:22:39 PM »

I am looking at a Woodcraft catalog right now.
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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2010, 09:51:48 PM »

So I've decided I'm going to French polish the top.
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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2010, 10:49:50 AM »

Go for it!  I'll be interested to see how you like using the French Polish technique.  When I tried it, it felt like a lot of work.
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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2010, 12:26:55 PM »

I've got some beautiful rosewood furnature from China which I believe is finished in French Polish.

It shows some of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatoyancy
http://phinds.com/bowls/chatoyancy.htm


If I understand correctly, it's caused by the orientatin of interlocking wood fibers (Moiré effect).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_pattern
http://www.mathematik.com/Moire/

Kinda interesting in regard to our ongoing discussions on optical illusions, optics, light physics, etc...trippy too.
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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2010, 12:18:50 PM »

Thanks, Poptop!
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Re: A top for looks
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2010, 02:49:05 PM »

I want to see how you do your polish.

BTW, where did you buy that burl?  (not a sentence one hears often  ;D )
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