Hmmm yea Ta0, i agree. I figured out how to do it today on my own just playing around with some weird wraps, basically tying the string to the tip. Pretty cool effect, i just wish there was a way to use it in some sort of combo. Make sure you let us know if you ever figure anything out :] And Neff are P213's available in mass production or is that simply something you modded yourself? It looks sweet.