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Topspinning.com and the Wayback Machine
« on: January 14, 2021, 06:13:54 PM »

I've recently begun tinkering with the wayback machine to view old top websites, and I have LOOOOOADS of questions about random stuff on topspinning.com.   (http://web.archive.org/web/20110410003908/http://www.topspinning.com/)

Q. 1 In all of the Herman Lau videos, the background is some pizza place, with a bunch of yoyo stuff going on. I even saw Steve Brown in the background. Where was this place, and why was Herman Lau at a yoyo event????????

Q. 2 What top was Herman Lau using? (besides what looked like a Bearing King)

Q. 3 Who is this person? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwrikqVvbYQ&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=peteheineck

Q. 4 What happened exactly to yoyoing.com and topspinning.com?????????


I have some more questions, but don't have time right now to finish typing them.  :P

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Re: Topspinning.com and the Wayback Machine
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2021, 09:04:40 PM »

Wow! It's very nice that you are investigating the spintop history like that! I have the feeling one day you could take my place (when I turn 100)  ;D
I'm surprised the Wayback Machine stored the actual videos.

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Q. 1 In all of the Herman Lau videos, the background is some pizza place, with a bunch of yoyo stuff going on. I even saw Steve Brown in the background. Where was this place, and why was Herman Lau at a yoyo event?
I believe all those videos were taken at a meeting of the Bay Area yo-yo club in 2000.
At that time the top and yo-yo scenes were the same.

Those videos of Herman in the pizza place were very important. From just those few seconds I figured out what the tricks Sewing Machine and Joker Choker were and recorded the ones that appear on ta0.com. I was expecting somebody to tell me I was wrong, but that never happened  ;D

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Q. 2 What top was Herman Lau using? (besides what looked like a Bearing King)
I'm not sure. Herman used to play with the Monarch but it doesn't have the hole in the crown that he needs for the stick trick.

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Q. 3 Who is this person?
Don't know.

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Q. 4 What happened exactly to yoyoing.com and topspinning.com?
Before there was youtube, yoyoing.com was very important because it had a server that hosted the yo-yo videos. It's interesting to think if Greg Cohen (Infinite Illusions) had expanded from yoyoing to general videos it could have become youtube. When youtube started in 2005, people started to post there. But it was finished for good when the video server crashed and was off line for a long time.

Topspinning.com was one of two spintop forums, the other being Button and String, which was hosted by the Utah yo-yo club. I was posting on both, but much more on B&S. Eventually B&S was the one left with activity  ::), until the guy in charge, who did not play much tops, decided to stop. He offered the database and I considered hosting it on my site, but I thought it would have more visibility if Infinite Illusions hosted it, so I proposed that to Greg. So B&S became the new Topspinning.com forum. Eventually, after several interruptions in the service I decided to create a new forum and iTopSpin.com was born.

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Re: Topspinning.com and the Wayback Machine
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2021, 10:35:44 PM »

#3 - Is it Pete Heineck?
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Re: Topspinning.com and the Wayback Machine
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2021, 11:25:40 PM »

#3 - Is it Pete Heineck?
(Pete Heineck is my dad  ;D)
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Re: Topspinning.com and the Wayback Machine
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2021, 11:33:22 PM »

Those videos of Herman in the pizza place were very important. From just those few seconds I figured out what the tricks Sewing Machine and Joker Choker were and recorded the ones that appear on ta0.com. I was expecting somebody to tell me I was wrong, but that never happened  ;D
Btw, sadly, all the videos on ta0.com are no longer viewable....  :'(
http://www.ta0.com/forum/index.php/topic,6266.msg67692.html#msg67692
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Re: Topspinning.com and the Wayback Machine
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2021, 12:55:41 AM »

#3 - Is it Pete Heineck?
(Pete Heineck is my dad  ;D)
Wow!  8) Can we know more?

Btw, sadly, all the videos on ta0.com are no longer viewable....  :'(
http://www.ta0.com/forum/index.php/topic,6266.msg67692.html#msg67692
I've been quite busy. But I should still be able to convert them.
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Re: Topspinning.com and the Wayback Machine
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2021, 11:00:27 AM »

Q3
It could be Fajar Sidiq
the hot -pepper addict

Or may be Felix A

What is "wayback machine"?

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Re: Topspinning.com and the Wayback Machine
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2021, 02:06:24 PM »

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Or may be Felix A
What is "wayback machine"?
Not Felix.

The Wayback Machine is a search engine on the www.archive.org site, which has been archiving samples of websites since the early days of the world wide web. It have found it very useful, but sometimes it's frustrating when a particular page or picture is not in the archive.
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Re: Topspinning.com and the Wayback Machine
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2024, 04:00:33 PM »

I took a quick ride in the Wayback machine today and was amazed that the videos are still there.  Texture & Ta0 mentioned as much above, but if anyone is interested, the landing page is below: 
(You need to click the "TRICKS" hyperlink text to get all the way there--this will download the video file to your computer--be warned, but it works.)

https://web.archive.org/web/20111102165531/http://www.topspinning.com/

This one is the same, but direct:

https://web.archive.org/web/20110914202941/http://topspinning.com/tricks/tricks.ghtml


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Re: Topspinning.com and the Wayback Machine
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2024, 10:10:59 PM »

I've recently begun tinkering with the wayback machine to view old top websites, and I have LOOOOOADS of questions about random stuff on topspinning.com.   (http://web.archive.org/web/20110410003908/http://www.topspinning.com/)

Q. 1 In all of the Herman Lau videos, the background is some pizza place, with a bunch of yoyo stuff going on. I even saw Steve Brown in the background. Where was this place, and why was Herman Lau at a yoyo event????????

Q. 2 What top was Herman Lau using? (besides what looked like a Bearing King)

Q. 3 Who is this person? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwrikqVvbYQ&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=peteheineck

Q. 4 What happened exactly to yoyoing.com and topspinning.com?????????


I have some more questions, but don't have time right now to finish typing them.  :P

Thanks, Me

I think this no 3. He ran sectory back in the day.
https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Gabe_Lozano


He is in this video about 2 min 21 sec in. Some early top spinning in this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sx4-qWDpng
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Re: Topspinning.com and the Wayback Machine
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2024, 10:43:03 PM »

Good memories of Herman Lau and Steve Brown with the top.  I watched this clip many times years ago!!!
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Re: Topspinning.com and the Wayback Machine
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2024, 11:54:17 PM »

Yes, good memories. I learned what drumbeat, sewing machine and joker choker were from watching that video! Likely recorded in 2000 (not with a phone!).
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