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mailman

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String ring?
« on: September 26, 2014, 02:13:43 PM »

Why is it that some spintop strings I've seen on videos use a plastic ring at the end of the string, rather than the typical crown wrap of string?  Is there a supposed advantage?  Most recently I saw one in C Neff's patch application video. 

I imagine this is common knowledge, but I'm just learning....

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Re: String ring?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2014, 04:51:57 PM »

In the 70s Duncan introduced the plastic tops in Mexico (before that time they just played with wooden tops). The Imperial top they promoted had the ring to facilitate wrapping. Players over there became accustomed to playing with the ring and all tops come with it. There are some unique tricks you can do with them, but it is mostly preference. In the US we use strings without the ring and if we try to use it, it is a hindrance unless you practice for a while. Mexicans will swear that the ring helps you by letting you know where the end of the string is. I don't know of a trick that is impossible to do with the ring at the end of the string, but Spinning Spider is one in which the ring gets in the way. Neff seems to use it more than other advanced US players.
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Re: String ring?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2014, 01:22:17 AM »

example of ring tricks:
Spin Top Trick: ring stuff: http://youtu.be/qeyzi9T6X-M
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Re: String ring?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2014, 02:37:35 AM »

hello

to me the ring is a Major improvement when you teach a group to learn the throw; it's a gain of time; when the ring is in place it's easier to tight the string toward the tip.....most beginners have difficulties blocking  the knot...
besides that
Salvador Martinez , the mexican maestro, told us that it improves the power of throw , just like when you throw a javelin with a piece of rope attached

to be certified....

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Re: String ring?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2014, 05:28:19 AM »

I hate rings, but to each his own. ;D
Dont tell Gus! ;)
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Re: String ring?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2014, 08:19:39 AM »

From my experiences teaching beginning spinners (of all ages). The ring has been a cause of frustration to them.  Most do not pull the string tight enough to the tip.  The ring then slips off the crown and results in failure. Not a very positive introduction to the art. 
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Re: String ring?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2014, 09:43:09 AM »

I have never heard that but I love that phrase.....it improves the power of your throw, just like when you throw a javelin with a piece of rope attached!

Cool!  I want to get my javelin and my rings out now!!!
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Re: String ring?
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2014, 08:26:47 PM »

my 2 cents is rings are over rated but then again ive only ever tried the imperial ring so maybe the mexican tops are better designed for use with the ring? but a thumbs down for rings from me  :P
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Re: String ring?
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2014, 02:12:28 PM »

hi all hi larry!
it's interesting to see that we come with opposite views on the same situation:
truly when salvador was there, we did at least 5 X 12 children workshops in 2 months.....each time with the ring, they would pull the string from the crown tight and no worries

well may-be it's a matter of tops: it was the cometa  alien that we used

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Re: String ring?
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2014, 08:36:16 PM »

it's interesting to see that we come with opposite views on the same situation:
well may-be it's a matter of tops: it was the cometa  alien that we used


Hi Jim!

Yes, you might be on to something.
 
There is a difference in the tops and the material they are made of. 
I use Trompos Space Saturno‚Äôs most often. 
I just compared both brands and noticed that there is also a difference between the rings. 
The Cometa rings are thicker and have far less stretch than the Trompos Space rings. 
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Re: String ring?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2014, 11:19:40 PM »

I just compared both brands and noticed that there is also a difference between the rings. 
The Cometa rings are thicker and have far less stretch than the Trompos Space rings.
That's it.  Trompos Space rings (and buttons) are much to stretchy for my liking. They make it hard to wind the top.  Duncan Imperial rings are quite stiff. So stiff, that any tension on the string and the ring pops off the crown.  Cometa and Premier Rings are just right.
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Re: String ring?
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2014, 11:58:36 PM »

Duncan Imperial rings are quite stiff. So stiff, that any tension on the string and the ring pops off the crown.

yup thats what ive found too, pain in the butt
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