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Title: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Mark Magyar on March 04, 2012, 12:46:41 PM
Just got word that Joe Mauk will try to regain his title for the Largest Spin Top in the World.
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Largest Spinning Top in the World
by Joe Mauk on Saturday, March 3, 2012 at 5:50pm ·

Hello FB friends,

The time is near.  On Sat. March 10, 2012 we will attempt to spin the biggest top in the world here at Rizal Re-Creation Center, Rizal, Laguna, Philippines.  All of you are welcome to come and witness the attempt.  I was accepted by Guinness Book of World Records in January 2011 to make this attempt.  They subsequently informed me I needed to break the record set in Japan in 1986 by Kawasaki Steel of a steel top 2 M high and 2.6 M diameter (thread on this forum (http://www.ta0.com/forum/index.php/topic,1932.0.html)).  Our top we are attempting to spin on Sat is 3.3 M high by 3.6 M diameter.

This has been in planning for more than a year and in construction since December.  We have acquired a 1.5 tonne steel ballast weight to drop from a tower to spin the top, we still have to set up the tower! -it is in process.  A lot of other details need to come into place but we appear to be on target for Saturday.

We appreciate your prayers and encouragement as we proceed with this challenge, adjustments are being made daily and we trust they will come to the right fulfillment Saturday!

http://www.facebook.com/notes/joe-mauk/largest-spinning-top-in-the-world/336492206387174 (http://www.facebook.com/notes/joe-mauk/largest-spinning-top-in-the-world/336492206387174)

Photo link: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151336228950207&set=a.10151336233060207.815258.832780206&type=1&ref=nf (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151336228950207&set=a.10151336233060207.815258.832780206&type=1&ref=nf)
Photo:
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc67/Bro_Markus/424834_10151336228950207_832780206_22776307_1663471218_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 04, 2012, 02:19:46 PM
 :o :o :o :o
Wow! That is HUMONGOUS!

If he can spin it he will get back the bragging rights to the biggest top spun by rope, no doubt!

I want to know more about the construction (is it hollow?)

I am betting it takes them several attempts to spin it . . .
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on March 04, 2012, 03:16:11 PM
Whew........serious looking top there!!!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: poptop on March 04, 2012, 06:24:18 PM
speachless.

(but thinking he should wear a helmet ;))
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Eric on March 04, 2012, 06:36:05 PM
Boomerang !!!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: robtsou on March 04, 2012, 07:05:15 PM
Boomerang !!!

Regens!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Mark Magyar on March 04, 2012, 07:17:21 PM
:o :o :o :o
Wow! That is HUMONGOUS!

If he can spin it he will get back the bragging rights to the biggest top spun by rope, no doubt!

I want to know more about the construction (is it hollow?)

I am betting it takes them several attempts to spin it . . .

An FB post from Joe Mauk about the construction of the top:
_Thanks for the comments, likes and interest in the giant top saga. For those asking what's it made of: steel shaft, steel plates, plywood plates and filled with high density closed cell plastic (foam forms). As to picking it up on my hand, haven't weighed the total top yet but estimating it will be around 900 lbs. So- totally not picking it up!
Title: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 06, 2012, 09:37:16 PM
Hello Top Spinning Friends,

I am Joe Mauk,a missionary of sorts in the Philippines. Some of you have seen my videos and stuff and may have heard some rumors of this upcoming record attempt.  I will start trying to post some info, updates, pics etc. here.  Thank you for accepting me as a member.  I want to explain first that I am not fixated on having a world record top.  As a spinner and collector I am, of course, interested in larger sizes and in 1984 had a 60-lb top made that was launched by dropping a 230-lb weight out of a coconut tree.  Some videos are around on this.

In early 2011 I was thinking it was time to try to go bigger and applied to Guinness to see if what I was thinking might be the biggest so far recorded.  I was thinking of around a 5-ft wide by 7-ft high top and had an idea how to make it.  Guinness informed me of the record set in Japan in 1986 of a 2 meter high by 2.6 meter wide top.  Hmmm, back to the drawing board.  Trevor Hill, a good friend of mine from Western Australia and a jack-of all-trades, had an idea how we might get it together.  He was house-sitting for us while we were in the U.S. last August and he made a 2-ft by 2-ft 6-inch prototype that worked beautifully.  So we decided to go for broke and attempt the record.  We just measured the one we propose to spin on Saturday and it is 3.8 meters high by 3.6 meters diameter. (12 ft 6 in high by 11 ft 9 in diameter)

That brings us to where we are now, an attempt to be made on Saturday morning here, March 10, 2012.  We are having a professional video documentary made of the whole process but should be able to post FB and youtube videos soon after (assuming it spins!).

Will see if I can post some pics.  Also another friend and top spinner from Australia emailed me a cartoon he made up about the attempt.  He is obviously recalling that in 1986 I tried to pick up the 60-lb top in a dish-like mechanism, had no control, hit me in the right cheek and knocked me down, had friction burns on cheek and jaw and ended up having a root canal to remove a nerve in a tooth that was destroyed by the impact.  We are taking extensive safety measures for this one!  We are anticipating it will weigh close to 900 lbs.  Have found a weight to drop to spin it, an old bulldozer ballast weighing 3,400 lbs.  That weight would snap a coconut tree so we are building a tower to drop the weight, hope to raise it today.  Sourced a rebuilt 5-ton anchor winch from a marine supply yesterday.  And so on we go.

-joe
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: poptop on March 06, 2012, 09:56:02 PM
Wow, welcome Joe!  Best of luck on the giant spin.

Cheers!
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 06, 2012, 10:22:18 PM
Welcome to the board Joe!  It is an honor to have you here.

You are really going extreme with that top.  It is going to be a challenge to spin.  I am excited abouit getting a first hand narrative of the attempt. Good luck!

By the way, would the Guinness Book accept it if you used a car instead of a dead weight drop to pull the rope?

The drawing is hilarious: attacked by a top!
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: Neff on March 07, 2012, 12:38:10 AM
Very ambitious, good luck Joe!
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on March 07, 2012, 02:04:11 AM
Yes, we all know about you JMauk.  We have watched your videos for years.  I can personally remember when I first heard about you.......in August of 2000 when Don Olney brought me a VHS tape of your spinning efforts (also included on the tape was Jim Schrieber).  That video eventually made its way to ta0 and word spread about you from there.  Over the years we have found videos of you on the internet and have seen some of your spinning efforts that way.

I cannot say I have ever met or known about a man who had a root canal because of a top spinning accident.  All I can say is "wow" about that and a "double wow" about your record attempt.  I look forward to hearing more about it all.

Good luck and, yes, that cartoon is pretty funny!
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 07, 2012, 02:57:31 AM
Okay, will put up the info I had put on my FB page and attach the first pic I posted anywhere of the top itself.

Hello FB friends,
The time is near.  On Sat. March 10, 2012 we will attempt to spin the biggest top in the world here at Rizal Re-Creation Center, Rizal, Laguna, Philippines.  All of you are welcome to come and witness the attempt.  I was accepted by Guinness Book of World Records in January 2011 to make this attempt.  They subsequently informed me I needed to break the record set in Japan in 1986 by Kawasaki Steel of a steel top 2 M high and 2.6 M diameter.  Our top we are attempting to spin on Sat is 3.8 M high by 3.6 M diameter.
This has been in planning for more than a year and in construction since December.  We have acquired a 1.5 tonne steel ballast weight to drop from a tower to spin the top, we still have to set up the tower! -it is in process.  A lot of other details need to come into place but we appear to be on target for Saturday.
We appreciate your prayers and encouragement as we proceed with this challenge, adjustments are being made daily and we trust they will come to the right fulfillment Saturday!

Thanks for the comments, likes and interest in the giant top saga. For those asking what's it made of: steel shaft, steel plates, plywood plates and filled with high density closed cell plastic (foam forms). As to picking it up on my hand, haven't weighed the total top yet but estimating it will be around 900 lbs. So- totally not picking it up!

Trevor Hill from Australia supervising the completion of the world's largest spinning top — at Rizal Re-Creation Center.

Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 07, 2012, 03:00:50 AM
Latest pic today, March 7, 2012
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 07, 2012, 03:04:27 AM
It's great to be hearing such encouragement from so many of you already.  Thanks!
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: czyoyo on March 07, 2012, 03:50:23 AM
WOW :o What kind of lathe did you use ???
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 07, 2012, 04:21:31 AM
Well, for lathe, it was just a couple of stands to rest the shaft on and a makeshift crank to turn it, the shape-able part is soft closed-cell plastic so could be shaped at low speed, didn't need a power lathe.  We had the rough round shapes in several layers prior to assembling on "lathe" for final turning.
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: jim in paris on March 07, 2012, 06:10:47 AM
WAOOOWWW : BiG TOUPIE!  SHE IS LOOKING FLASHY IN BLUE !!


Dear Joe Mauk

like Mike wrote , we've known you for quite some time, and it's a real pleasure to have you here so close, on the forum. 8)

once again you're about to show us how far can tops raise emotions, commitment,  will-power and faith
you're a true Jim Schreiber's descendant !

saturday is the big day : it will be ST Vivian here in our calendar (wasn't she/he a martyr?) ;D ;D

my best wishes and magic vibes sent to you

jim
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: czyoyo on March 07, 2012, 07:02:10 AM
Perhaps a live feed of the record attempt?  ??? >:D ???
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 07, 2012, 07:39:58 AM
Thanks Jim, luck, wishes, vibes, prayers, magic, I'll need it all for Saturday!

czyoyo, sorry no live feed, have an arrangement with a local TV show for first broadcast on their nationwide (Philippines) Monday morning show (Umagang Kay Ganda on ABS-CBN).  They will play the taped attempt but I will be interviewed live that morning.  Will try to post some home videos on youtube asap after the attempt.

Oh, and Jim, it was also my pleasure to meet with Jim Schreiber on three occasions before his passing.  I had learned spinning from Jim Steed of Grand Rapids, MI, who had learned from Jim Schreiber and was able to visit with Jim and Jemima twice (I think 1979 and 1983) and the last time was just Jim (I think 1990) after Jemima had passed on. He gave me my noisy diabolo top from China on that last visit.
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: Larry D. on March 07, 2012, 08:56:40 AM
What an incredible feat you are attempting.  The top looks gorgeous.
Too bad there will be no live feed.  :(
Thanks for giving us such wonderful insights Joe.
I can't wait to read more updates.
Wishing you all the best and great success!
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: czyoyo on March 07, 2012, 09:41:20 AM
I guess I will have to settle for youtube videos :-\

Oh well. :)

Is that metal bar the tip or will it get a giant tip? ???
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: WaxyAxle on March 07, 2012, 10:15:09 AM
That is absolutely one of the coolest things I have ever seen.

I smell a shoo-in for the 2012 photo contest!

Best of luck, this is going to be great.
Title: Re: World's Largest Top attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 07, 2012, 01:32:31 PM
The shaft will serve as the point, it is a 14 ft long solid steel 2 inch diameter round bar that was machined to a point on one end. At the base visible in the picture will be attached a wooden spool like a yoyo to wind the string, and below that a "nose cone" to complete the shape.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Mark Magyar on March 07, 2012, 03:51:53 PM
Latest pic as of today March 7, 2012
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc67/Bro_Markus/425626_10151347944195207_8.jpg)

Great to see you here Joe Mauk. ^_^
Welcome.

[Note from admin: I merged the two topics.  I left Mark's picture links as they show even if you are not logged in]
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 07, 2012, 05:18:21 PM
Thanks Admin!  Well, Thursday morning here.  Byron Watts arriving this evening to serve as one of the official witnesses required by Guinness.  The other official witness will be the town mayor.  Have also had confirmation of the local nationwide television arrangements.  No international broadcast inquiries yet, I mean other than you internationals requesting streaming video!  Sorry about that.

Didn't get the tower up yesterday.  Making progress on the holders.  The shaft will be held top and bottom by two huge 10-inch bearings.  This will give safety from it running away or landing on someone (like me) but will still enable it to spin freely within the space the large bearings allow.  The shaft is 2 inch diameter, bearings 10 in so I hope it will be very obvious it is spinning freely without being suspended by any mechanism (one of the requirements of Guinness).  Without the tower up, haven't been able to test the winch I bought so don't even know if it works right yet, I do know the crank turns the gears but that's about it.

A friend was waxing eloquent about what faith I must have to attempt this, I replied, either faith or insanity!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 07, 2012, 07:16:47 PM
Byron will be there? Hey, we have another witness from the forum!

I think you are being too cautious. You should release it after it is spinning.  Perhaps on a following spin after you know everything is working well?

By having the rope pulling from close to the tip from the start, there will be a lot of "flipping" torque.  One nice thing of the conventional shape of a top is that you have embedded a continuous gear box: at the beginning the string applies high torque at low speed and as the wrap goes down it starts to provide less torque but at high speed. It will be interesting, to say the least, to see what happens Saturday.   8)
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: anon on March 07, 2012, 07:22:58 PM
This is cool#
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 07, 2012, 07:45:31 PM
Jorge, you are exactly right about the need for larger diameter for better torque to start the spin.  However we will not be winding around the top itself, even though it has beautiful grooves, the plastic foam filler could never withstand the force.  My first thought was to just wrap the string around the shaft and had planned a launcher mechanism according to that idea. I have several small launcher tops that work well with this technique, of course my hand to the size of the top is an unperceived quantity of enormous force in comparison to the size of the top.  While on the "lathe" I wrapped a rope around the shaft and 5 of us could barely turn it.  Wrapped it around one of the 2 ft diam steel plates and one person could turn it easily.  Abandoned the launcher idea and went to a yoyo groove idea.  This enables us to wind from inside out on a spool so the initial pull is on greater diameter and winds down as speed increases.  I think the theory is right.  The practice? -yet to be seen.  The top will actually be held upright by the large bearing rings because of the force of the rope pulling it, we should be able to put the right tension on it with the winch brake.  When we release the weight the shaft spins against the bearings due to the pull force, when rope is done it should release into the middle of the spinning plate.  We'll see!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 08, 2012, 02:52:01 AM
Thursday afternoon.  Going in to Manila soon to pick up Byron.  Today added 12 dots 18" diameter separated by 19" spacing to fill the 37' 5" circumference.  The tower is up, Hooray!  Haven't tested the winch yet.  If I can't have a little test before I go in, I will, otherwise get onto it in the morning.  42 hours to launch.  May try to post a pic of the tower raising too.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on March 08, 2012, 09:42:00 AM
Glad to hear Byron Watts will be there.  The dots are a perfect addition.  It is fun to hear of all the progress.

I don't want to sound like a smart alec......but that top looks so big that it appears it can't get out of the building without tearing a wall and part of the roof down.  Please tell me there is an opening on the other side of the room (not in the picture) that is big enough to allow you to take the top out in one piece!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: czyoyo on March 08, 2012, 10:00:11 AM
I would say "lol" but that would not be funny  ;D
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: bAd on March 08, 2012, 10:32:50 AM
This is impressive!!  :o
I can't wait to see the spinning attempt!
And I wish you guys good luck with that, with all the hard work you've made you definitely deserve a record!  ;D
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: czyoyo on March 08, 2012, 11:06:04 AM
Agreed!  8) I cannot get over how awesome that thing looks! :o :o :o
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: jim in paris on March 08, 2012, 11:08:45 AM
Big Thanx Again , Joe !
it's wonderful to have all these precisions on the project!

wishing you once more :
best of lucks and plenty of success!



jim
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Watts' Tops on March 08, 2012, 05:06:59 PM
I am loving this.  So glad Byron is there safely and hopefully helpful in the set up.   Praying for you guys. :-X
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 09, 2012, 01:00:20 AM
Thanks to you all for so much encouragement already.  Been a bit absorbed this morning.  So much to get together and the video documentary going on at the same time.  Lots of other photo seekers showing up too!  Resting a bit before getting back out there.  Almost 2 p.m. here so about 20 hours to go till launch.  Hmmmm, still have not been able to test the winch, cable is being installed but the stand it is on is not anchored yet.  Top still in the building.  Hope to bring it out in a couple of hours.  No we don't have to take down a wall but we did have to break up some already poured floor and dig down to make enough room to get it out. We had the right dimensions of the opening in a straight line measure but the bulk of the top does not allow for any sneaky maneuvering so had to open it up more, easier to go down than to mess with dismantling the steel roof trusses!  Trevor has a plan for moving it which I entirely don't understand, but the paint job is his baby so I am sure due caution will be observed!  Just finished and now installing the upper bearing holder and the pulley to raise and lower the bearing as necessary.

Looks like the trial run will end up being the actual attempt.  Guess that is the way it should be.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 09, 2012, 09:49:12 AM
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we did have to break up some already poured floor and dig down to make enough room to get it out.
I guess that can be seen in the first picture.  This must be another first!

Crossing fingers here!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: poptop on March 09, 2012, 11:31:02 AM
Go Joe, go!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: lincolnrick on March 09, 2012, 11:34:59 AM
Hope this goes great for you Joe!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on March 09, 2012, 12:02:28 PM
Yes, digging into the ground to have enough space for a top to get out of a building is very very unique.  It is a good addition to an already great story.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Watts' Tops on March 09, 2012, 03:13:48 PM
Byron Watts has about 300 pictures on his facebook page.  Go to Facebook and look it up.  Fascinating.  Excit 8) 8)ed to see the thing spin.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 09, 2012, 03:33:48 PM
Good morning all!  4:30 a.m. here the morning of the attempt. In about 6 hours we should know if the planning and preparation will bear fruit in a free-standing spinning largest top ever.  Yesterday was exciting and tense.  Trevor had made a skid of curved 2-inch pipe to bring the top to the site.  It went remarkably well.  Getting it up on the launch platform was another story.  Incredibly awkward to move into position but after repeated attempts and adjustments finally got it up into position.  It is so beautiful.  Can actually spin it slowly by hand by gripping the launch spool.  BUT- still have not tested the winch!  The winch stand was reinforced and  anchored down during the night while I slept.  The 3-inch bolts we had someone buy to affix it to the stand turned out to be 2-inch bolts and didn't discover it till after all the stores were closed.  One of our staff will be at the hardware store when it opens 8 a.m. Talk about cutting things close! Have a lot of measuring to do for the launch rope, will try to do that while waiting for the bolts. Will be out there 7 a.m.  Have a ton of people coming and lots of interviews so probably can't post till later today.  Byron will probably have some posts up on FB sooner.  Thanks again for all the encouragement!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 09, 2012, 03:53:38 PM
There she stands!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 09, 2012, 04:29:54 PM
Wow! It reminds me a Saturn V rocket in the launch pad: powerful and scary . . .  The countdown has started . . .
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Daveid on March 09, 2012, 06:48:20 PM

sooooooo awesome!!!

so... how long before someone makes a second one of similar size to battle it?
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on March 09, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
I have one started about the same size as that but I just realized I can't get it out of my garage (ha ha).
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: jim in paris on March 10, 2012, 04:06:44 AM

Weather forecast for Rizal, Laguna, Philippines   

Today10 Mar 2012

Current weather conditions in Rizal.

 Partly Cloudy 86° F
    Feels Like: 86° F
    Wind: ESE 16 mph
    Humidity: 62%   


Night
Weather in Rizal on Saturday.
Cloudy 75° F
    Wind: ENE 8 mph
    Humidity: 87%

good conditions ;D ;D

jim
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: czyoyo on March 10, 2012, 05:28:02 AM
Can someone explain how this thing is goin' to spin? ???

Do they have some secret 5 story tall robot that's going to throw it? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: jim in paris on March 10, 2012, 05:40:13 AM
ah ah !! you're curious !!

referring to Joe Mauk's past works on large tops

the top is held straight in a king of "stand"
the rope will be wrapped near the tip despite the torque problem
then the rope goes into a pulley
and is held at 10-12 meter high by the tower
at the end there is a huge counter weight
 dropping the counter weight pulls the rope
and eventually the top will spin for over 45 mn
and Joe starts to preach ....

that's about it 8)

jim
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: czyoyo on March 10, 2012, 06:53:46 AM
so is the top made to stand straight by the launch pad or is it free to wobble?
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Watts' Tops on March 10, 2012, 08:44:33 AM
The latest report, Winch broke and Joe went for surgery.  Doing ok  See face book under Byron T Watts for details.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Watts' Tops on March 10, 2012, 08:50:42 AM
I copied the following from face book and pasted here.  Please join in praying for Joe.

Byron T. Watts
Praying for Pastor Joe Mauk who is going into surgery NOW to repair a skull fracture caused by a winch failure during the first attempt to spin The World's Biggest Spinning Top.
 Don Olney   
In an odd turn of events, a gear in the winch broke, and injured Joe, but no one else. He seems to be OK, but did get a skull fracture. There was a doctor there, and a nearby hospital, so things appear to be going well. Evidently the top also sustained damage from a piece of the broken gear! No definitive word on whether the top spun or what records may have been set?
·

        Walter Watts How about hooking a car to the rope and driving away? Seems so simple to me.
       
 
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on March 10, 2012, 09:40:05 AM
Oh my!!!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: poptop on March 10, 2012, 09:56:45 AM
Sorry to hear of the bad news.  Sounds like Joe will be OK.  That top doesn't have him beat yet!

Go Joe!

Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 10, 2012, 10:13:15 AM
Oh! That is terrible!  :'(  But I am glad you are doing fine now and nobody else was hurt. On the other hand, this makes it much more interesting for a documentary of the attempt and your future biography.  ;)

Quote
Will see if I can post some pics.  Also another friend and top spinner from Australia emailed me a cartoon he made up about the attempt.  He is obviously recalling that in 1986 I tried to pick up the 60-lb top in a dish-like mechanism, had no control, hit me in the right cheek and knocked me down, had friction burns on cheek and jaw and ended up having a root canal to remove a nerve in a tooth that was destroyed by the impact.  We are taking extensive safety measures for this one! 

(http://www.ta0.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2154.0;attach=718;image)

-joe

You must be the first person knocked out and sent to the hospital by a giant top! Twice!!!   :o If I was you I would not try anything bigger . . .
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: jim in paris on March 10, 2012, 10:20:21 AM
OH NO !!

 :-X :-X :-X :-X

wishing the best for your recovery
and hoping you can make another attempt

jim
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Watts' Tops on March 10, 2012, 10:44:55 AM
Another face book update.

Don Olney
Picture shows Joe and The World's Biggest Spinning Top before the winch broke - damaging both Joe and the top! Evidently after the accident, 12 guys grabbed the rope and ran with it. Result was a 19 minute SPIN! Thank you Joe for a great event! We are all pulling for your full recovery!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on March 10, 2012, 11:01:23 AM
What?  A killer top breaks the skull of its creator and it takes 12 guys to tame it into submission.  And the result is a new Guinness record!?!  What a tale.  Right when you think the story can't get any better it takes a new turn and is even more stunning!

The thought of the cartoon makes the whole thing even more astounding (and humorous)!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Larry D. on March 10, 2012, 11:52:41 AM
What and incredible saga and magnificent achievement!

Joe,
Me and my family pray for your complete and speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: bAd on March 10, 2012, 11:54:54 AM
Oh nooooooo!!!  :(
So sorry to hear about the accident..... But it is true, every outstanding achievement comes at the price of sacrifice!
Hope you recover promptly, Joe, what incredible dedication to the project...

And 19 minutes may not be 45, but still is extremely impressive!
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Post by: Eli Hickerson on March 10, 2012, 11:57:27 AM
I wonder if it is a bearing? just kidding :D :D :D
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Post by: jim in paris on March 11, 2012, 03:46:54 AM
Hello again
Any recent news from Joe Mauk ?
can someone paste the news from F-Book here ?

thanx

jim
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: lincolnrick on March 11, 2012, 11:53:07 AM
From what I read Pastor Joe has come out of surgery with no problems.  There is a picture of him in the hospital and he looks good.  There was a skull fracture, but a small one. 

The top did spin. Byron Watts is there (Manila, Phillipenes) and writes this about the video of the event.

"Byron T. Watts - Just attempted an upload from Manila hotel. The time of upload from this location is estimated to be 24 hours...and the time was incrementing. The problem is, my airplane leaves (and I trust I'll be on it) in about 7 hours."

Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Larry D. on March 11, 2012, 12:17:37 PM
From what I read Pastor Joe has come out of surgery with no problems.

Thanks for the update Rick!
It is really good to hear that surgery went well.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Watts' Tops on March 11, 2012, 03:23:24 PM
Don Olney wrote the following on face book
Don Olney
Some of this is repeat, but wanted to update.

For those of my friends who have not been following this remarkable story, there was an attempt yesterday at spinning the world's largest spinning top. The attempt was successful after a rather spectacular initial failure! I've attached a picture of my friend Joe Mauk after successful surgery to repair the result of that failure!

It took a long time to collect the story, but here it is.

There was a cracked gear in the winch that was to lift the weight .... the falling of which was planned to start the top spinning. Due to that defective gear, the winch sort of exploded. The weight was about 3000 pounds! Three pieces of metal shot out. One went into the crowd without damage. One imbedded itself in the top, and the third struck my friend Joe Mauk in the head. (Joe is is the one who put together this whole spectacular attempt.) He is basically fine now after a few hours of surgery to remove a 2" dia. cracked section of his skull, some pieces of his hat, and other debris! Hopefully they left in that cracked part of his being that loves to tackle the impossible! Later surgery will plug up the hole!

At this point, all communication via the net switched to info about Joe, but I finally collected the rest of the story ----- after some discussion, 12 guys picked up the rope, and ran with it! The result was a 19 minute spin that should meet the criteria of the Guinness folks for a world record that should be tough to beat. I have to give a lot of credit to Treavor (?) who "turned" the top. A 19 minute spin for a top that big that was sort of "fenced" in, but not actually held in place is a remarkable feat of balance!

There is video which will be uploaded later. Due to the size of the video, there appear to be some problems!

God bless all the crazy people of the world who push the boundaries of what can be done!
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Post by: jim in paris on March 11, 2012, 03:38:45 PM
WONDERFUL !
God bless all the crazy people of the world who push the boundaries of what can be done! and amen to that....
I'm glad it turned out so well
thanx a lot for the report


jim
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: bAd on March 11, 2012, 04:37:10 PM
Thanks for the report!  ;D

I can't wait to see the video of the 19 minute "throw"... Hopefully it'll be available alsoto those who don't have facebook....?
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Post by: Eric on March 11, 2012, 05:05:39 PM
Amazing story! Thanks for the report.
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Post by: ta0 on March 11, 2012, 05:24:13 PM
Epic!!!

There should be a Manila TV story airing this Monday.  Hopefully it will be available online.

Looking forward to reading Joe's comments when he feels well enough.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Dick Stohr on March 11, 2012, 07:39:35 PM
I knew there was a good reason for mentioning Joe during concerns at church this morning.  Some body tell Joe that it does not take a hole in the head to do the things we do for fun and fame.   ;)
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: silvertop on March 11, 2012, 09:07:01 PM
On the question of getting it out of the building, they did actually dig out a hole in the ground to lower it down under the roof line to get it out! See attached picture.  Also picture of Joe after surgery with a surgical drain that looks suspiciously like an upside down top coming out of his head.  There are a huge number of pictures on Facebook accessible if you friend Byron T. Watts.
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Post by: silvertop on March 11, 2012, 09:15:04 PM
Dimensions if not posted yet.

Dia. 10 ft. 11 59/64th inches
Circ. 37 ft. 5 inches
Height. 12fl. 8 3/4 inches

I don't think they got to weigh it.  They  tried once inside the building but there wasn't enough room above the top for the scale to hang.  I think they attempted again outside, but I did not see any info on results.  Pre-spin estimate was 900 pounds?

Joe's post after surgery,

"I am feeling fine, had a great cup of coffee this morning, which immediately raised both my temperature and blood pressure!- still all in the normal range. As to what hit me, the impact was colossal, unbelievable to describe, surprising I wasn't knocked out, the only impact I've had similar but smaller was being hit in the face by a crank handle in Australia back in 1977, so I thought the winch crank handle must have hit me. Now we have discovered that one of the gear boxes for the winch/tower assembly exploded when the cable snagged and the weight jerked with excessive force. One significant piece hit me and one piece hit the top itself and so it also has a scar! Thankfully no one else was touched, I am so tremendously thankful for that."
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Post by: silvertop on March 11, 2012, 09:17:59 PM
The following was posted as a comment on Joe's FB page by a fellow pastor -- Don MacKay

Mike will love this!

"The Reverend was nestled all snug in his bed,
For pieces of winch gear were stuck in his head,
And Ma with her Sunglasses, I in my cap,
Had just settled down for a long Sunday's nap.

For out at Rizal there arose such a clatter,
Folks sprang all around to see what was the matter.
Away to the Hospital they flew like a flash,
With police escort ahead Cause He had such a gash.

But what to all's wondering eyes did appear,
The World's Biggest Top, Spinning 19 Minutes Here;
With many bright days still to spin for his Lord ,
Joe Mauk must delay his eternal reward. : )"
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 11, 2012, 10:32:27 PM
Thanks a lot Don for the update!

The big hole in the ground to take out the top is hilarious! 

It was a bad accident but very lucky: it could easily have ended in a tragedy. Fortunately it didn't and it is now a great story!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: jim in paris on March 12, 2012, 03:47:35 PM
very good text by Rev Don MacKay

learning it by heart should be made compulsory for any serious player
 ;) ;)
jim
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on March 12, 2012, 05:11:27 PM
What a crazy, crazy story!  That picture of the building and the hole in the ground is classic.  I am so glad we can all smile about this whole thing.  I am still shaking my head about it all.  I can hardly believe it!!!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: topper777 on March 12, 2012, 05:30:02 PM
if you can snap start this TOP i will give you a million dollars,lol. this thing is huge!!!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Watts' Tops on March 12, 2012, 07:28:57 PM
I am sitting here laughing my head off.  Thanks Don and all for this great top story.
So glad Joe is doing ok.
Last I heard, Byron is back in MN.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: silvertop on March 13, 2012, 10:21:06 AM
The video is up on Byron's Facebook, and on mine.... friend  Byron T. Watts, or Don Olney to view... It will be posted somewhere else I'm sure, but Byron is sleeping now?  I just noticed what might be a workable link, but I think you probably have to be on Facebook to use it???? 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151365629265467 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151365629265467)

I get 100 RPM on the first 30 seconds .... probably a bit faster for the first few seconds after the end of the rope pull.  Much faster and I think the frame might have done something interesting to add to the story.  Someone in the video comments that they are glad there are ropes holding it.  The last full minute of the 19 min spin is about one revolution!
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Post by: Larry D. on March 13, 2012, 10:58:49 AM
Don, thanks so much for providing the link for all of us!
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Post by: ta0 on March 13, 2012, 11:01:39 AM
Thanks Don! The link works and I could see the video even though I do not have a Facebook account.

I imagine the white mark on the side of the body is from the a piece of gear hitting it. It really helps in timing the top!

Most of the time the top is riding on the upper bearing. It would have been nice to see a view from above to verify that at times the top is completely free.

This is what Joe needs to do: find a way to release the top after it is spinning! Of course, it should be started in a safe way, with a very long rope and maybe a car doing the pulling. That top spinning freely would be absolutely awesome to watch (and a potential viral video)! However, I recommend Joe watches the attempt with a telescope!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: poptop on March 13, 2012, 01:06:24 PM
Free the giant tops!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: jim in paris on March 13, 2012, 03:29:18 PM
i can' t  access to the V D O

can someone put it on a less asshole website ? thanx



jim

ps : i don't facebk shitless
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Watts' Tops on March 13, 2012, 05:06:22 PM
I also posted the spin on my face book page.  Go to Walter Watts and I think you can see it without friending me.  You can friend me if this does not work but You will have to wait for my acceptance of your friendship which would be tomorrow about 4.
It is worth the time it takes. :(
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: poptop on March 13, 2012, 05:45:07 PM
The link above worked for me...it was awesome. ;D
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Post by: bAd on March 13, 2012, 05:58:19 PM
I believe it doesn't work from mobile devices... It will keep asking me to log in to FB (which I don't have) on my phone, whereas earlier today I could see it fine from my laptop, and it was impressive...
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 13, 2012, 06:39:00 PM
I am uploading it to youtube right now (as unlisted).  We will see if it works.  It should take about 1 hour.

Here it is. I did not watch the whole thing again to verify that the 20 minutes uploaded ok.

WorldBiggestTop-Mauk.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyUUX3WQcO0#)

link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyUUX3WQcO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyUUX3WQcO0#) (unlisted)
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 13, 2012, 09:17:02 PM
Wow, just got to iTop page this Wednesday morning in the Philippines and can't believe how awesomely wonderful you top guys are.  For any of you on FB, you can friend me- joe.mauk1  There is quite a series of posts there.  I am very thankful (apart from the obvious things, like being alive) for the 12 guys who did the 19 min spin while I was on the way in to the hospital.  Even though part of the motivation may have been "let's tell Joe he got the record before he dies", it was a wonderful thing to do.  Have watched the video.  The top is truly beautiful but it also proves two points of view.  Trevor was always pushing me for manual attempt as he thought it would do fine (BTW, Trevor is a wonderful friend and jack-of-all-trades but is not a lifetime top-spinner). I was always pushing and designing the drop weight mechanism.  We were both right, it can, actually as proven, be spun manually.  On the other hand, the result,though impressive is not what I envisioned.  Those red dots should have been a perfect blur of purple and, based on the manual results, the thing would have probably spun for 4-5 hours!  Tomorrow is my wife's birthday and, wonderful life partner that she is, she requested another manual attempt.  So we will be fine tuning the manual technique but the weight drop method, and the possible results of which, are confined to the rubbish bin.          ....(at least for now!)

BTW, if there is interest, in my strong cycles (I am strong and weak in 1 to 2 hour cycles) I could post some of my FB posts about the aftermath on here for those who don't facebook.

Thanks for being so supportive all my fellow loonies!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Dick Stohr on March 13, 2012, 10:34:05 PM
Joe, we are all just sooooooooooo very thankful that you are doing so well.  The spin is truly a bonus.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 14, 2012, 12:15:06 AM
Great to hear from you, Joe!  We all wish you a speedy and complete recovery.
That cartoon was premonitory!

Please, do post the messages from facebook. But only if you are feeling strong. We want you to be around for a sequel!  ;D
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 14, 2012, 04:56:30 AM
Trevor brought over the pieces of the exploded winch gear. It seems the largest piece is the one that hit me and then landed in the crowd.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 14, 2012, 04:58:31 AM
The hat I was wearing when hit, which might have been the slight cushioning factor to protect my dura. The surgeon cleaned out several small pieces of black fabric with the skull pieces. Five minutes before being hit, the video documentation cameraman asked me to put my brim up to bring more light to my face for the interview shot. This caused me to pull down the back of the hat to exactly the point of impact.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 14, 2012, 05:00:41 AM
For those I haven't been able to talk to here is my first and second day analysis of the accident:
I had come to the conclusion the first day between when I was hit at 12 p.m. and went into surgery at 8 p.m. that the problem was failure to test the winch equipment. I had never tried anything risky before without a thorough testing of the equipment first. The whole week of final preparation I was frustrated that not much progress was being made on the winch setup so I could test it. The staff and work crew were jumping in with both feet on the multitude of tasks that needed to be completed but little or no progress on winch preparation. It was not actually available to test until the time of the actual attempt Saturday morning. We raised and dropped the weight a few feet and then raised it up for the attempt. So, though somewhat embarrassing, the conclusion was the accident was due to failure to properly test the equipment first.

The second day's analysis revealed a new insight. First, there was the fact that I had bought a faulty winch. The gear was cracked and painted over so the fault was not noticeable. So then, any time full weight would have been applied to the winch, the gear would have exploded. I had bought a 5-ton winch for a 1.5 ton weight so I thought I had a large margin of safety, but not with a cracked gear. Because no test was made until the attempt, when the winch and tower shook, I immediately turned to look at the top and was immediately hit in the back of the head. If I had tested it beforehand, there would have been no top to look at, I would have been looking at the weight or directly at the winch, not a nice scenario.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: hermityo on March 14, 2012, 06:55:31 AM
This is possibly the most incredible post I have read on this site and I am so glad Joe shared the story so far with us. It must be said  that to produce this top and get it to this point is really a tribute to Joe and his team of enthusiasts.   What an extraordinary series of unfortunate events. I have been amazed, amused , and shocked but quite addicted to see what else could possibly happen.
It has just left me with too many un-answered questions.
What does the top weigh, if known?
Any more information about its construction?
Is this really a top?  Was it supported at each end thus making it perhaps a gyroscope? Like Tao I would love to see this top spin free but with everyone well out of harm’s way.
 I would be disappointed if the Guinness  people recognise a top that is fixed for the record.Having said that this effort is definitely worthy of some award.
 I think a much more interesting record would be to build a top that is only powered by people( perhaps a limited number) and the top has to spin free for a time( perhaps 3 minutes ) demonstrating  stability. I would be very interested everyone’s thoughts on this aspect
Given the damage already inflicted by the exploding winch ,was it the health and safety officer standing under the top on the amazing 12 person pull, I couldn’t watch as a small child came into the danger area.
Has Joe been nominated for a Darwin award?
It is really great that Joe is OK and I am sure that we all agree with Joe’s sentiment ,
“Thanks for being so supportive all my fellow loonies!”
I certainly fit into that category of spinning loonies and have long loved the motto, ‘Don’t think ,Do!’
Once again, well done Joe and a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 14, 2012, 07:13:08 AM
Okay guys, feeling hale and hearty at the moment so let me try to give you some construction details.  First though, on the free or attached situation.  The top is set top of the shaft and bottom of the shaft in a large 10-inch bearing, the shaft itself is a 2" diameter so it is designed to spin free within the space the bearings allow, thus being unattached but not hazardous. The Guinness Book requires it not to be attached or suspended, I believe this meets the qualifications but was disappointed it didn't stand more obviously independent of the top bearing, it was quite clear of the bottom bearing most of the spin.

We started with a 14' long solid steel shaft.  We made 4 pcs 4' diameter 3/4" plywood discs that attached to 4 pcs 2' steel plates fastened to the shaft with 3"lengths of pipe with tightening screws.  One of the discs was welded to the shaft.  Before assembling all the discs we made circular foam layers of huge high-density foam blocks (similar to styrofoam) and assembled them on the shaft between the discs.  Trevor set up the makeshift lathe to do the final shaping and painting.

Has not been weighed yet, could not raise it high enough for the scale in either the assembly room or the launcher arm.  Will try tomorrow with a pulley system (no winches though!)
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 14, 2012, 07:21:05 AM
Ooops, forgot, one of the steel plates was not attached to a plywood disc, we needed it to tighten up the yoyo spool disc Trevor made when we realized we needed a larger diameter for better torque for the rope wind.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 14, 2012, 10:36:25 AM
I know of a certain Hall of Fame in Ohio that would like to have that hat and those gear remains . . .  ;)

It is fascinating the mix of very bad luck and very good luck involved!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: jim in paris on March 14, 2012, 12:25:00 PM
Hi Joe Hi all !

like our friend Hermityo , i have been totally transported by this story....the twists and turns were astonishing and the show-down worth a 5 star movie ...we event get the "element of crime " >:D at the end ;D

about the fact that it was a captive top or not
may be it should move a bit more at the bottom,even with the bearing


Thanx again Joe and the Team
With this splendid project
You make me dream


jim



Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 15, 2012, 05:54:11 AM
Got Big Blue weighed this afternoon: 450 Kilos (992 pounds).  Also did another manual spin, since Ruth and I hadn't seen it Saturday, with much the same results.  Spins, it's beautiful, but would love to see it hum.  Will work on stabilizing the launching structure as there is a lot of vibration and banging that can be rectified, I believe.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: poptop on March 15, 2012, 10:47:13 AM
...he says with a wry smile and a twinkle in his eye.   ;)
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 15, 2012, 11:19:48 AM
FB  comments:  Don Olney: Glad you got to see it spin! For some reason I can't post a comment on the IMPACT video post. A quite remarkable video to say the least! I knew you got hit, but did not know that the top did spin! Did that spin count for the record? And more importantly, how are you feeling, and are you losing any important data through that hole?

Joe Mauk: Hi Don Olney, well, the top spun but since the cable hesitated, the speed of the top caused it to catch up with the unwinding rope and wind it the other way, if you watch you will see it then starts spinning the opposite way! It was a great test of the strength and integrity of the top construction, not to mention my head. Amazingly I feel great, rather than losing data, getting new ideas!

Oh, and a question for Hermityo:  What's a health and safety officer?
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: hermityo on March 15, 2012, 07:01:37 PM
Hello Joe and great to hear that you have recovered so well so quickly and having more ideas for this remarkable top you have built. Thank you for posting its weight and more about its construction. I find it fascinating. Regarding the "make-shift lathe" you spoke about ,was that set up where it was held horizontally in the shed? Also I remember reading that you spun it very slowly to shape it . Did you use a motor of some sort to rotate it? With foam I imagine some of the shaping could have been done with sandpaper perhaps?
Regarding the "health and safety officer".It really was just a joke. Here in Australia on most larger building sites the workers Union have  health and safety officers to oversee everyone's H&S.They are well known for slowing down projects and even stopping things that are a bit "out there". H&S officers in Australia would never have allowed this attempt but more importantly no-one here has ever tried to spin a huge top like this.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 15, 2012, 07:38:39 PM
Thanks Hermityo, my question was a joke too!  We do try to be safe but it is a very different world here from Australia, U.S. and Europe. Trevor and I had a great laugh at one point during the documentary, they were videoing Macky, our engineer, and in the background they were getting the launch holder arm in position, they were using two chain blocks and one started lifting the platform they were standing on.  So, while the engineer is being interviewed about the project you have two guys in the background start floating in space and grabbing onto the arm to keep from falling, they quickly reversed the one chain block to solve the problem but what a scene!

On the makeshift lathe, Trevor had the two stands made up and we had chain blocks from the roof trusses to lift both ends of the shaft.  When the stands were in position we lowered the shaft so they would bear the weight, we also bolted the stands into the floor.  For turning, a big crank handle was made and attached with pipe and tightening screws to one end of the shaft but  for a lot of the shaping it was easier just to turn it by hand.  Rough shaping was done by sawing the foam, more detailed shaping with a disc grinder using sandpaper discs, and also sandpaper on flexible rubber pads.  Trevor had also brought a couple pieces of diamond grid finishing paper from Australia for the final smoothing.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 15, 2012, 08:33:55 PM
Here is Byron Watts' summary of events of March 10, 2012


Note:  Photos from Friday and Saturday (launch day) are available on Facebook.  There is a page: The World’s Biggest Spinning Top
Friday March 9, 2012
•   Final modifications were made to The World’s Biggest Spinning Top.
•   An attempt was made to weigh The World’s Biggest Spinning Top but the roof height was too low to mount the large scale between the chain winch and The World’s Biggest Spinning Top.
•   The decision was made to place The World’s Biggest Spinning Top in the transport cradle and move The World’s Biggest Spinning Top to the launch pad.  It was hoped there would be enough room on the launch pad to weigh The World’s Biggest Spinning Top.
•   After The World’s Biggest Spinning Top was placed in the cradle, 20 men lugged The World’s Biggest Spinning Top from the build site to the launch pad.
•   Moving The World’s Biggest Spinning Top went very smoothly.  We were surprised how well transport went.
•   Night fell as The World’s Biggest Spinning Top was being placed in the launch pad.
•   Lights were set up to enable workers to continue placing The World’s Biggest Spinning Top in the proper position.
•   Workers continued into the night to prepare the launch pad for launch day.
Saturday March 10, 2012 LAUNCH DAY
•   Launch day began sunny and bright.
•   Preparations continued as crews arrived to photograph and document The World’s Biggest Spinning Top.
•   Friends and officials gathered at Rizal Re-Creation Center.
•   It began to rain lightly.
•   The winch was tested.  There seemed to be a problem getting things ready on the winch.
•   The decision was made to delay weighing The World’s Biggest Spinning Top until after the spin.
•   One media crew was delayed in arriving at the site.  Launch was delayed. 
•   Workers continued to work on the winch and launch tower.
•   When the media crew arrived, bumble bee (the “transformer” – weight) was cranked up the tower.
•   Announcements by Joe Mauk, Ruth Mauk, family members, Rizal Laguna Mayor Hon. Antonio Aurelio and designated witness Byron T Watts were made as we prepared to launch The World’s Biggest Spinning Top.
•   A pre-launch weight drop was attempted.  The winch and launch tower seemed to perform correctly.
•   The weight (1.5 tonne) was lifted to the top of the launch tower.
•   Nearly everyone watched The World’s Biggest Spinning Top as the winch lever was released.
•   As the weight dropped from the launch tower, sparks were seen in the winch (note that I was not watching the winch). 
•   It appears that the winch jammed.
•   As the winch jammed, the top of the launch tower bent.  The weight was falling very fast and could not drop successfully because the cable was stuck.
•   Apparently the jamming winch was caused by the gear breaking up.
•   One part of the winch gear exploded forward and hit The World’s Biggest Spinning Top embedding almost two inches in The World’s Biggest Spinning Top.
•   One part of the winch gear exploded backward a hundred feet or so.
•   One of the pieces of the gear hit Pastor Joe Mauk smashing a golf ball sized chunk of his skull.
•   Pastor Joe announced that he needed to go to the hospital...it took a long time to realize he was hurt.
•   Pastor Joe was transported to the Hospital in one of the Re-Creation Center vehicles.
•   Jojo, Pastor Joe’s driver drove really fast.  Police officials were present providing escort part of the way.
•   A Doctor was present who attended Pastor Joe to the hospital.
•   Pastor Joe was stable enough that they decided to drive to the more distant and better equipped hospital.  A 2-hour drive…at least normally, achieved in 1 hour 15 minutes.
•   Initially the Neurosurgeon thought there would be an hour long surgery.  The x-ray and CAT scan seemed to indicate a less significant fracture.
•   It was discovered that an area the size of a golf ball (around 2 inches) was pulverized by the winch gear. 
•   The surgery needed to clean out bone fragments and bits of his hat took 2 ½ hours.
•   Pastor Joe is recovering and in good condition…with an extra hole in his head.
•   Thank God for protecting Pastor Joe from more serious injury.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 15, 2012, 09:23:18 PM
This is such an amazing story!  The more details the better it gets!

We need a couple of these pictures for the photo contest.  Maybe somebody can nominate the best two from Facebook.
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Post by: silvertop on March 16, 2012, 06:20:31 PM
Thanks ta0 for getting the video on u-tube!
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Post by: yollector on March 16, 2012, 08:49:12 PM
Wholey Moley !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Daveid on March 17, 2012, 01:02:59 AM
has anyone done any calculations on how much distance would've been travelled if it'd been rolling on it's side instead of spinning? someone said something like 100rpms in the first thirty seconds? what's the perimeter of it?
or am i asking something that's already been covered and i missed it?
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 17, 2012, 01:56:11 AM
weight: 450 kilograms (992 lbs)

dimensions of top are: circumference 37' 5", Diameter 11' 11" (3.63M) and Height 12' 8.75" (3.88M)

Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 17, 2012, 10:25:12 AM
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has anyone done any calculations on how much distance would've been travelled if it'd been rolling on it's side instead of spinning?
Good safety question, daveid!

I timed 20 turns in 12 seconds, what confirms the 100 RPM that Don got.
With a circumference of 11.3 m, that gives a rim speed of 67.5 km/hr or 42.2 miles/hr.  So it could potentially roll pretty fast!!
Of course, if you are watching from the opposite side from Joe, you should be safe   >:D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 17, 2012, 05:27:42 PM
Love it!  Does this mean that if I got the top up to 1,000 rpm it would be going 420 mph rim speed? Crazy!  Does this also mean that with the right launch, the rim could break the sound barrier?  Not that I would try anything crazy like that, of course.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 18, 2012, 12:59:36 AM
Well, at 100 RPM the material at the rim is already experiencing a centripetal acceleration of 64G. It increases as the square of the RPMs, so well before 1000 RPMs it will disintegrate throwing pieces in all directions!  :o The public will not be safe, even if standing opposite to you!  :P   
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 18, 2012, 01:26:06 AM
Wow!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 20, 2012, 11:01:13 PM
Yes, all is well, thanks. Had first day with no pain meds yesterday and it went fine, didn't sleep as much but made up for it this morning! Walked 3K and did some chores too yesterday morning, nice to feel the stiffness in the muscles today! Did a little juggling to check my eye-hand coordination. Might do my first tops show since the accident today or tomorrow.


Yes, it's official, the Boss has approved a tops show for tomorrow after lunch (Thursday March 22). We will have about 300 guests from 6 different groups so it is an opportune moment!

Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 21, 2012, 02:31:34 PM
I am very happy to hear that you are doing well!

Is the Boss, THE Boss?  ;)
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Watts' Tops on March 21, 2012, 04:29:11 PM
So glad Joe is doing great and back at the Top Spinning ministry.  Go Joe. :D :D
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 22, 2012, 02:24:50 AM
Yes, THE Boss was not sure if I was fully up to it.  We were both right.  Was able to get through the 45 min tops show. Had a few technical errors but got it done.  Seem to not be picking things up as quickly visually.  Guess I better do some more juggling! We are both happy with getting back to the show but obviously I am not 100% yet.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 23, 2012, 06:04:18 AM

Second top show 13 days after accident, Friday, March 23, 2012


 Yesterday's show had 5 technical mistakes involving three different tops.  I also felt a bit faint in the middle of the presentation.  It seems that yesterday I started out at an upbeat pace like always, like nothing had happened. Wore me out quick.
 
Today I started more slowly and deliberately, and with better pacing did not feel faint at all, didn't feel strong but didn't feel faint either.  Show went well with only two technical errors involving only one top, double trouble of course, but I successfully caught both tops on the third try, much to my relief, and the audience's too!  So a much better outing and then slept for two hours afterwards. 
 
No more shows until end of next week so can get a good resting stage in before trying aqain.  These two shows gave a good assessment of my condition, between the shows and assessing my juggling ability, it seems I am operating at about 70% of normal.  Thanks for all the prayers as we work back to full recovery.  Stitches are due to be removed next Friday, March 30th along with a medical re-assesment.  Also the video documentary producer will be interviewing the neurosurgeon at that time.
 
Had a great visit yesterday from my youngest Bible Institute student in Australia in 1976, Jeff Jack.  He came with his two grown sons to visit missionaries here in the Philippines.  He pastored in Alabama for 12 years and is now back n Australia.  Learned tops from me back then and still does tops shows so was glad they could see my first performance since the accident.  Great catching up with him and meeting his boys.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on March 30, 2012, 08:56:10 AM
Instead of Thurs-Fri March 22-23rd being my only tops shows scheduled since the accident, I ended up doing two more shows on Sat and Sun 24-25th.  Was glad I did as the last one felt like old times again.  Did not have the weariness during the show I had been feeling, no verbal or technical slips so was really happy to be back in the flow.  Have had one more this week, which also felt great, and one is on tomorrow morning.  We are starting our Philippine summer (April-May) so will be super busy with constant groups coming in and out.

Today, Fri March 30, had the stitches removed.  Our video documentary crew came out here to our site first and interviewed me first time since the accident.  Also showed me a preliminary edit they did of the day, talk about bringing out some memories!  They had me do some commentary on that.  Then they went in with me to the neurosurgeon and interviewed him.

Learned something new during that interview, the surgeon explained the major veins in the head.  Two are in the back of the head.  One was 1 cm below the point of impact and the other was 1.5 cm to the left of the impact.  Any variation of the impact down or to the left and I would have most likely bled to death on the spot.  I knew there was a miraculous aftermath to a bad situation but quite sobering to hear the original danger stated so plainly.  Freaked out my wife too when I got home and told her what he said.  Whether it is called a lucky break or an example of the amazing grace of God, I am happy to be writing this post to you today!
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: ta0 on March 30, 2012, 10:28:51 AM
 :o Almost killed!!!!  I am feeling a big delayed relief that a huge tragedy was avoided.
The video crew now has the "jeopardy" angle they always seek and a potentially compelling documentary. I guess they would want you to complete the project and have the top spinning fast.  They should actually help you with $ and logistics to get the top spinning freely as that would make for a great finale.   ;)
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on March 30, 2012, 11:44:08 AM
Talk about a near death experience!!!  Oh my!

Glad to be reading your posts instead of reading posts about you.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: JMauk on April 05, 2012, 10:21:16 PM
ta0 -Would be great if video crew were paying me but, alas, it is the other way around!  However the producer thinks if we do it right, and he does feel the quality of his video shoot is up to their standards, we may have a shot at getting it on Discovery Channel or something like that. In any case, it will all be incorporated into a DVD with my remade full tops show as well as the largest top in the world saga, at least that is the plan for now.  What we first thought would be a 12-15 minute documentary on the making of the world's largest top has expanded into potentially a 1 hour TV slot.  So not sure yet what all will come of it other than our originally planned DVD.
Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: czyoyo on April 06, 2012, 12:47:32 PM
Cool! The idea of the discovery channel is exciting! 8)

I think that this record has allot of potential to spread the joy of spintops!  :)

Title: Re: Worlds Largest Spin Top record attempt
Post by: Dick Stohr on April 06, 2012, 01:50:14 PM
Great news!  Looking forward to the DVD.