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Title: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on January 01, 2016, 07:11:24 PM
The website for the World Yo-Yo + Spintop Contest is now active:

http://worlds16.com/


The Spintop competition is listed on the schedule:

Friday 5, 2016, 11:00-12:00 PM: Spintop Prelims
Friday 5, 2016, 5:00 - 5:30 PM: Spintop Freestyles
Friday 5, 2016, 6:30 Spintop Awards

I now know exactly how many days I have before relinquishing the title . . .

The contest takes place at the Renaissance Cleveland Hotel.


Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Kirk on January 02, 2016, 12:31:06 AM
You are permanently the 2015 champ.  Your 2 championships are your forever legacy.  The cool thing about a legacy is that you get to pass it on and keep it. (unlike cake)
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: jim in paris on January 02, 2016, 10:40:27 AM
VG schedule

following the general assembly's votes , ITSA plans to present 10 competitors,
with some help given for international players representing their country
we are already working on it ;D

jim
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on January 03, 2016, 04:08:26 PM


I now know exactly how many days I have before relinquishing the title . . .

The contest takes place at the Renaissance Cleveland Hotel.

wait what are you not going ta0???
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on January 04, 2016, 12:12:30 AM
I now know exactly how many days I have before relinquishing the title . . .
wait what are you not going ta0???
As I assume there will be plenty of competitors, I will be a judge. I can always take it back in Sydney 2021  :P
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on January 04, 2016, 12:36:48 AM
I now know exactly how many days I have before relinquishing the title . . .
wait what are you not going ta0???
As I assume there will be plenty of competitors, I will be a judge. I can always take it back in Sydney 2021  :P

even though there be alot of competetors ill still miss your perfomance  :'(
btw whos idea was it to put a bk picture for spintop division????  ???
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Kirk on January 04, 2016, 08:33:49 PM
Will there be spin top sport division? It is not on the schedule.
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on January 04, 2016, 11:16:14 PM
Will there be spin top sport division? It is not on the schedule.
There has not been a yo-yo ladder, much less a spintop ladder, the last two years.
So there won't be a sport ladder listed on the event.
However, we can organize one ourselves. It might not be on stage, but if ITSA certifies it, it will be OFFICIAL!   ;)
So I say that if there are enough people interested we can have it. And if we know in advance we can have medals . . .
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Kirk on January 05, 2016, 08:45:50 PM
However, we can organize one ourselves. It might not be on stage, but if ITSA certifies it, it will be OFFICIAL!   ;)

I doubt that I will be able to freestyle by then, but I would like to participate.
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on January 05, 2016, 10:55:14 PM
However, we can organize one ourselves. It might not be on stage, but if ITSA certifies it, it will be OFFICIAL!   ;)
I doubt that I will be able to freestyle by then, but I would like to participate.

You just need to convince a few more. I imagine Shootist would participate. Rachel? Some of the guys who went to Miamisburg this year?
Title: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on April 25, 2016, 08:01:39 PM
The month of May is almost here and it is time to prepare for worlds, August 3-6 (spintop freestyles Friday 5). Website: www.worlds16.com.
I confess I have been procrastinating this year (but I am not competing, so I have an excuse).

If your are competing: registration fees increase every month! This year spintop competitors pay the same as yo-yo players, no more special fees. The general competitor fees are:

Until March 31st – $45 USD
– Until April 30th – $65 USD
– Until May 31st – $90 USD
– Until June 30th – $120 USD
– Until July 15th – $155 USD
– At the event – $200 USD

In addition, there is a $50 for the spintop freestyle. So I suggest you register this week (65+50= $115).

The official hotel of the contest is pretty expensive ($169 a night including taxes) but four people can share a room for the same price, so it comes to $42 per person per night. Is anybody interested in this? Of course, there are much more economic lodging options around but I have not yet investigated: any suggestions?

Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on April 25, 2016, 09:07:30 PM
wow thats alot of money flying around the room there like demented beavers high out their noggins off too much golden canadian grade A premium maple syrup there eh bud  :o
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on April 25, 2016, 09:46:16 PM
wow thats alot of money flying around the room there like demented beavers high out their noggins off too much golden canadian grade A premium maple syrup there eh bud  :o
Yep. But fortunately there are many possible competitors who are at driving distance: the Earl, John Buechele, Mark Hayward, Mike Durdak, Takeshi . . . Even Neff could perhaps drive all the way there.

I know that Eli Hickerson has registered. Who else?

Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: studio42 on April 26, 2016, 04:00:44 AM
Was debating making a proposal for sound production for the event.

Yeah, not liking the rising cost schedule. It's honestly too far out for people to be registering in my opinion but I'm OK with that. But, if you really qualify later on and you decide to enter... seems too cash-grabby to me.

I'm only going if I'm running sound production and they'd need to provide the room(and fly me out). Of course I will have tops and yoyos on me if I go. Heck, I typically have some on me anyways every day.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Shootist on April 26, 2016, 12:09:03 PM
Well I have to say that I'm not happy with the prices, I paid $45.00 for my Spectator Pass, $115.00 for Eli's Spintop Competitor fees, another $115.00 for Austen's Spintop Competitor fees, then the expense of the hotel room.  Keep in mind these fees go up the Longer your wait to Register for the Event.

But what I have never understood (As their Customer) why hotels charges $27.00 a day to Park your car on their property.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on April 26, 2016, 05:49:03 PM
Thanks for starting this thread.  I am sad to read about the costs but I am happy to see two Hickersons already signed up to compete.

I have gone back and forth about competing.  I would do so if it would help our numbers but I am excited about the possibility of others participating.  I have not thrown much lately due to the heavy work schedule but I have a couple ideas of freestyles with things I can do and can't do (yet).  Obviously, I will not do anything with swords if I want to get in the finals.

How many participants will we be allowed to have in the finals?
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Kirk on April 26, 2016, 06:47:08 PM
Ouch$
It seems like a lot since I doubt that I will even be able to freestyle by then. Even if my skills take a rocket ride, I guess that my chances of making the finals are about zero.

By the way what are the rules? Were are they published? How does scoring work? How does one make the finals?

I think I have been the only one to ask about top sport division. (AKA ladder)

A bit of a difference from 2013 where the judges were begging people to spin.

Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: MarkHayward on April 26, 2016, 06:53:20 PM
I have no inside information, but I can tell you that a lot of european events get backing from the government or discounted prices. That simply doesn't happen here. Convention centers charge enormous rates because most of their customers are corporations that don't mind paying a lot. This is part of the reason that we see so few community events at convention centers in this country.

I'll be MCing the contest, and have already told them that I need to be free for the spin top contest. Now I just have to get back into practicing.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on April 26, 2016, 10:50:15 PM
It is great that you will be freestyling, Mark!

Ouch$
It seems like a lot since I doubt that I will even be able to freestyle by then. Even if my skills take a rocket ride, I guess that my chances of making the finals are about zero.
By the way what are the rules? Were are they published? How does scoring work? How does one make the finals?
I think I have been the only one to ask about top sport division. (AKA ladder)
The rules for the freestyles should be the same as last year: http://www.ispintop.com/freestyle-rules.html

On the schedule right now there is half-hour in the Grand Ballroom for the finals. That means only between 6 and 8 players for the finals. For the prelims there is a slot of a full hour (place to be determined), so if that stayed like that we could have a lot of one-minute freestyles or about 14 3-minute freestyles. But I fear we may lose half of the slot to some sponsor activity.

Since the competition moved from Orlando, there haven't been any sports ladders, either for yo-yos or tops. BUT if there are players interested we can have one (outside the stage). It will be certified by ITSA and we can give medals. That is one reason we formed the association. To compete on that one you don't need to register as competitor on the main event. We should also have the traditional corkscrew challenge and top battles . . .

Quote
A bit of a difference from 2013 where the judges were begging people to spin.
Am I not begging enough?  ;)
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Kirk on April 27, 2016, 12:08:09 AM
The rules for the freestyles should be the same as last year: http://www.ispintop.com/freestyle-rules.html
Where did you ever find this link? Are there other pages at http://www.ispintop.com that We should know about?
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on April 27, 2016, 09:51:56 AM
The rules for the freestyles should be the same as last year: http://www.ispintop.com/freestyle-rules.html
Where did you ever find this link? Are there other pages at http://www.ispintop.com that We should know about?
It is linked from last year's Tokyo worlds website (http://tokyo15.com/en/contest-divisions/spintop/). Re-reading the rules I see that we owe Miki a Traditional Spintop Champion award  :-[
Now that spintops.org has taken the place of ispintop.com I need to forward one site to the other.
By the way, the rules for the sports ladder can be found on the 2013 site:
http://www.worldyoyocontest.com/2013worlds/index.html@page_id=127.html

Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on April 29, 2016, 10:37:38 AM
Just two days for the registration fees to go up by $25!

IF we continue having the spintop contests together with the yo-yo contests, you will have to wait 3 more years for it to happen again in the US (next year the yo-yo contest is in Iceland, the following somewhere in Asia). Specially those who live at a driving distance from Cleveland should not miss it!

I finally made contact with Steve. At least I made sure that he knows that are willing to help with the organization of the spintop contest.

The spintop freestyles are Friday and the Yo-Yo contest ends Saturday. I am thinking in flying back either Monday or Tuesday from Dayton, so Sunday I can drive (or get a ride) down to Miamisburg and Cincinnati to visit the Hall of Fame and John's lab at the university. Anybody else interested in this "field" trip?

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MODERATOR NOTE: I split most of the discussion about the justification or not of the registration costs to a separate thread:
http://www.ta0.com/forum/index.php/topic,4304.msg44307.html#msg44307
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on May 24, 2016, 10:19:14 AM
One week left until the registration fees jump by $30 more!

I haven't heard from many freestylers who live at driving distance. ???

The carpet on some of the photos of the hotel remind me the Rozen  :D Not so much on the main ballroom:

(http://cache.marriott.com/propertyimages/c/clebr/phototour/clebr_phototour73.jpg)


Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: studio42 on May 24, 2016, 01:34:48 PM
Most hotel ballroom floors are like in casinos: ugly as crap! It's like they all have some sort of requirement to "make people not want to look at it, bring your eyes back to straight ahead".
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on May 31, 2016, 10:39:02 PM
Prices go up tomorrow. As of May 16th few competitors were registered for tops. None from Ohio! (even Mike Durdak was only registered for 4A.)  :(
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Neff on June 01, 2016, 12:38:42 AM
I think the part in the rules that says any top that leaves the stage is disqualified should be removed.  Not going to fuss about it or build a case, I just think it puts undue pressure on the player.  The winding part should stay though.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: kyo on June 01, 2016, 02:23:26 AM
Most hotel ballroom floors are like in casinos: ugly as crap! It's like they all have some sort of requirement to "make people not want to look at it, bring your eyes back to straight ahead".

Sorry to derail slightly, but I happen to know why they're done this way :)

In casinos, yea, part of it is don't look down.. look at all the lights and games to play.

In hotels it's more practical.. they can replace any piece of it absolutely seamlessly. It's all gridded out in a computer program, they can order up any section of it and in a matter of minutes make a totally flawless fix. High wear areas, major spills, etc. can be repaired on demand and you'll never see it. I saw this done in person at the Rosen years ago.. two guys showed up in the middle of the hallway, in like 5 minutes they patched a spot and I absolutely couldn't tell where the seam was. Those hideous patterns make your eyes go haywire, hard to see edges.

Kyle
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on June 01, 2016, 12:25:34 PM
So, how many are registered?
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: jim in paris on June 01, 2016, 12:33:37 PM
5 so far

there is a rumour saying that a certain Punk ;D
 who used to blow up tops in a well known video,  >:D
will be competing  8)

good news !!

jim :-X :-X
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: studio42 on June 01, 2016, 01:29:28 PM
I think the part in the rules that says any top that leaves the stage is disqualified should be removed.  Not going to fuss about it or build a case, I just think it puts undue pressure on the player.  The winding part should stay though.

Just in my watching of videos of spintops at US Nationals and Worlds(mostly), and with it in mind I haven't watched all of them, I don't recall seeing spintops leaving the stage nearly as much as I've seen 4A yoyos leaving the stage. I'm really not opposed to the "off the stage, stays out of play" rule. I don't see that putting much pressure on a player unless they've only got a couple of tops. Is that what you're referring to?

What's the winding part? Wasn't it like a 1-point deduction if you had to wind the top on stage during the freestyle? I know the discard rule is a lot different. If I recall, there's no discard penalty for tops. This is different than with yoyo, where a discard/swap is a deduction.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Dick Stohr on June 01, 2016, 03:51:45 PM
The reason that the no return rule came about was because it was dangerous and distracting to the player when one came flying from the fourth row about head high. Yo-Yos or tops no difference if it goes off it stays off during the contestants time.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on June 01, 2016, 08:09:35 PM
I think the part in the rules that says any top that leaves the stage is disqualified should be removed.  Not going to fuss about it or build a case, I just think it puts undue pressure on the player.  The winding part should stay though.

The no-top-returned rule has been there since before my time. I imagine the throwing back of tops or yo-yos was more likely when the contests were more informal. I wouldn't mind removing it. I think it would help players. By the way, ITSA (probably the International Board) should vote on ratifying the rules for worlds.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Dick Stohr on June 01, 2016, 11:16:00 PM
I could consider tops that are PLACED on the edge of the stage, but any thrown tops and the rule must come back. I was there when it was necessary for safety to add the NO RETURN rule.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Neff on June 02, 2016, 12:44:25 AM
I don't see that putting much pressure on a player unless they've only got a couple of tops. Is that what you're referring to?

What's the winding part?

http://www.ispintop.com/freestyle-rules.html

Right after the leaves the stage part is the no winding by others part.

I plan on using only one top that is difficult to acquire.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on June 02, 2016, 12:57:27 AM

I plan on using only one top that is difficult to acquire.


@-@
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: jim in paris on June 02, 2016, 12:26:50 PM
"I plan on using only one top that is difficult to acquire."


=  Back  on the Tracks  8)

 ;)
jim
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Dick Stohr on June 02, 2016, 02:42:11 PM
Chris, with your skills, you should only need one top.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on June 02, 2016, 03:50:06 PM
Chris, with your skills, you should only need one top.

One top to rule them all, One top to find them,
One top to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them @-@
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on June 03, 2016, 08:08:08 AM
One top, eh?  I have heard that this sort of thing is a possibility.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Neff on June 03, 2016, 08:01:07 PM
'cause you have done it, sir!
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on June 03, 2016, 10:12:39 PM
Thank you, Neffster, for acknowledging my little attempt at humor.  But of course, I did not do any fancy tricks.  Not like Kazuhito Miki and his fabulous one top dropless routine.  Is he really coming to Cleveland this year?
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on June 04, 2016, 07:25:42 PM
Thank you, Neffster, for acknowledging my little attempt at humor.  But of course, I did not do any fancy tricks.  Not like Kazuhito Miki and his fabulous one top dropless routine.  Is he really coming to Cleveland this year?
Miki hadn't registered by May 16th. Taka had said he was coming. Miki probably doesn't need to practice to be able to freestyle, so it could be a last minute decision for him.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on June 04, 2016, 09:50:12 PM
Last time I was spinning around the neighborhood, the word on the street was that Jim Neff was coming to Cleveland for Worlds.  If I remember right, he was talking about not getting there until Friday.  This might mean that the JNeff spinning circus will be rolling into town for fun activities after the top competition and for Saturday whirling affairs.  Who needs any top spinning workshops if JNeff and his car load of top tricks are in Cleveland?
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on June 05, 2016, 10:26:03 AM
Last time I was spinning around the neighborhood, the word on the street was that Jim Neff was coming to Cleveland for Worlds.  If I remember right, he was talking about not getting there until Friday.  This might mean that the JNeff spinning circus will be rolling into town for fun activities after the top competition and for Saturday whirling affairs.  Who needs any top spinning workshops if JNeff and his car load of top tricks are in Cleveland?

whoaaaa!!!! developmante mui mui importante!!!!!!  :o
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on June 06, 2016, 06:52:37 PM
Eight years later it is still a classic.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwXhgC9RoHA

I happened to run across this again today and couldn't help but smile.  Thanks csam, especially for your Pee Wee Herman tribute at the beginning!!!
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on June 07, 2016, 10:30:27 AM
Eight years later it is still a classic.....
Yes, that is a classic! I am very happy SpinQueen/csam made such a great recap as I missed going.  I think 08 was one of the only two world contests (together with 06) that I have missed since 2004.
Thanks for posting it. It is a good way of getting in the mood for this year. I hope the venue has plenty of space to throw tops, like the Rosen in Orlando had.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: jim in paris on June 07, 2016, 11:54:43 AM
sweet memories  8) 8)

do you know where the corkscrew top is now ?


jim
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on June 07, 2016, 12:09:09 PM
do you know where the corkscrew top is now ?

Tyler Young still has it as last year there was no corkscrew contest.
I hope those in Cleveland who don't freestyle at least compete on this one (even if the world record in unlikely to be broken.)
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Joel Norris on June 16, 2016, 02:03:20 PM
So, I'd be interested in coming to participate in a Ladder, if there was enough interest. If there isn't going to be one I'd rather save the registration fee and vacation days though, as I am in no way ready for freestyles
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on June 16, 2016, 03:54:19 PM
Seems like when we had worlds in Orlando we always had people ready to do the ladder.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Kirk on June 17, 2016, 12:14:37 AM
So, I'd be interested in coming to participate in a Ladder, if there was enough interest. If there isn't going to be one I'd rather save the registration fee and vacation days though, as I am in no way ready for freestyles
I'm up for the ladder (AKA Sport Division).  I plan to freestyle but I do not expect to make the finals.  How can we get a head count to see if this will happen or not?
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on June 17, 2016, 12:20:03 AM
So, I'd be interested in coming to participate in a Ladder, if there was enough interest. If there isn't going to be one I'd rather save the registration fee and vacation days though, as I am in no way ready for freestyles
I'm up for the ladder (AKA Sport Division).  I plan to freestyle but I do not expect to make the finals.  How can we get a head count to see if this will happen or not?
We could also get the more advanced players to compete with their non-dominant hand :D In that case I need to start practicing . . .
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on June 25, 2016, 07:58:34 PM
I finally got my tickets and hotel reservation.
I am arriving to Cleveland Tuesday the 2nd. I will be staying at the hotel contest. I will drive to Miamisburg either Saturday or Sunday, and fly home from Dayton Monday evening. I plan to visit John's lab in Cincy either Sunday afternoon or Monday morning.

See you all there!

PS: I am not competing but will probably be a judge.
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on June 25, 2016, 09:54:16 PM


PS: I am not competing but will probably be a judge.

(https://media.makeameme.org/created/Thats-a-bummer.jpg)
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on June 26, 2016, 12:31:55 PM
No, Jack. Others should compete. Perhaps for Melbourne/Shanghai/Singapore 2018 if we need more players I can compete again  ;D
The real bummer is that you cannot come!
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on June 30, 2016, 10:07:39 AM
Japanese players competing: Taka, Aoi Kiyama and . . . Miki!  :)  8)

One Mexican player 60% chance. Another just inquired yesterday.
No news from Colombia.
Title: World's 2016 Cleveland Schedule
Post by: Kirk on July 01, 2016, 07:30:54 PM
We are trying to determine when to arrive in Cleveland. (and how long to stay) The hotel discount expires on Sunday 7/3.

All the "official" top events are on Friday.  When might we do events like corkscrew challenge, Sports Division (FKA ladder), Battles, Workshops etc?

Sound off. When are you arriving?  Departing?  Even if your plans are not set yet, more info will allow us to build community and hang out together.
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Neff on July 01, 2016, 09:04:22 PM
I plan to Arrive Thursday evening and leave Sunday morning.
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Kirk on July 13, 2016, 09:35:03 PM
We are arriving Thursday late morning. Departure time is not clear. I assume that there will be a meet up thread on the forum.
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Kirk on July 13, 2016, 09:36:11 PM
Where are the rules posted again? I can not find a link anywhere.
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Kirk on July 13, 2016, 09:40:33 PM
2 days to get music uploaded.  How does one pick?  Trying to throw whilst listening, I find distracting.  So I am practicing this.  Q: what tricks do you do 40 min after sunset to practice for the worlds?
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on July 13, 2016, 09:48:11 PM
2 days to get music uploaded.  How does one pick?  Trying to throw whilst listening, I find distracting. 

there is bailandoing in the house of the trompo @-@

Q: what tricks do you do 40 min after sunset to practice for the worlds?

jumprope+circle saw directly in front of the flat screen is my suggestion  8)
Title: Re: World's 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Neff on July 13, 2016, 10:25:21 PM
http://www.ta0.com/forum/index.php/topic,4293.msg44339.html#msg44339
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on July 13, 2016, 11:05:06 PM
Thanks for the link, Neff. I hadn't realized that I had started two different "worlds" preparation threads.  :-[ I have now merged them into one.

Last minute news: we have one Mexican player confirmed!  :) Another is possible. The Colombians are still trying.

PS: I am finally back home from the north (30 degrees F difference). But I have lots of stuff to catch up :(

Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: MarkHayward on July 14, 2016, 12:35:04 AM
Last time I went to upload my music there was no category for the top contest, so I figured I'd just bring it with me. Now there is a category for us, but I'm on the road and won't make the deadline. Hopefully it will still work when I get home.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on July 14, 2016, 05:44:09 PM


PS: I am finally back home from the north (30 degrees F difference). But I have lots of stuff to catch up :(

welcome home @-@
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on July 15, 2016, 04:04:02 PM
it pains me to say ive been watching social media and as of yet no indication miss connolly will be in attendance  :'(
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Kirk on July 15, 2016, 11:17:26 PM
Last time I went to upload my music there was no category for the top contest, so I figured I'd just bring it with me. Now there is a category for us, but I'm on the road and won't make the deadline. Hopefully it will still work when I get home.
deadline has been extended to the 20th.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on July 16, 2016, 12:02:00 PM
Cleveland is getting ready to host lost of Republicans for the GOP national convention and articles in the paper are showing up about the city.  Here are a few places in town that are highlighted in a recent paper: The Millard Fillmore (which is a bar themed as a joke to that president who is not from Cleveland), the West Side market (illustrates the city's proud ethnic heritage and melting-pot culture), the glittering Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum (housed in a glass pyramid), the Cleveland History Center (artifacts ranging from campaign buttons to inaugural gowns) and even the Happy Dog (with all kinds of hot dog toppings including SpaghettiOs).  James Garfield IS from Cleveland and there is a memorial to him and other items nearby (he was the last President born in a log cabin and that is a few miles away).

Of course, there are plenty of places where sports teams play like the Indians (Progressive Field), the champion Cavaliers (Quicken Loans Arena) and the Browns (First Energy Stadium).  Cleveland also has a Museum of Art, a Museum of Natural History, a nice public library and even a casino.  There is lake front action (like a submarine memorial) and an area of town called historic little Italy.  Hope this helps a bit!!!

(ha ha - I just found out they have a Chipotle restaurant very near the Renaissance Hotel.  I know where I will be eating!!!)
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: MarkHayward on July 17, 2016, 02:30:31 PM
I CAN'T WAIT to eat at Chipotle with Mike again!
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on July 17, 2016, 11:01:00 PM
And I CAN'T WAIT to eat at Chipotle with MarkHayward again.  Seems like we should be able to get a deal with them.  If the event were around my neck of the woods they would give us a nice group discount.  Maybe we can pull something off up there in Cleveland and have a nice top spinning lunch or dinner for our group of spinners?
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: yollector on July 18, 2016, 01:37:10 PM
Hi,
The final list of all the competitors is
up on the yoyo news website . It shows
All the divisions and the names of the people
competing .
However under the Spintop division there
are No Names ??????
           RFC
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on July 18, 2016, 02:21:46 PM
Hi,
The final list of all the competitors is
up on the yoyo news website . It shows
All the divisions and the names of the people
competing .
However under the Spintop division there
are No Names ??????
           RFC

Why I am not surprised? It seems that they want to keep the spintop competition a secret!   :P ::)

I know for sure of 5 from the USA, 3 from Japan and 1 from Mexico.
I hope to hear from another Mexican today. The Colombians (several) STILL trying.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Neff on July 18, 2016, 03:24:40 PM
they were there when I looked yesterday.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Neff on July 18, 2016, 03:31:30 PM
and they are there today.

Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on July 18, 2016, 08:02:44 PM
To that list add:

Fernando Turégano (Cancún, México) (arriving Thursday and leaving Sunday)
Marco Palma, aka Cuper (Guadalajara, México) (got his US visa just today!)

 :)
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on July 18, 2016, 08:13:01 PM
Fernando designed some T-shirts (he works in this kind of things) based of the official yo-yo logo but for tops:

(http://ta0.com/Button-n-String/Tshirt_W16-1_small.jpg)

(http://ta0.com/Button-n-String/Tshirt_W16-2_small.jpg)

I think they look great!
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on July 18, 2016, 08:36:41 PM
Fernando designed some T-shirts (he works in this kind of things) based of the official yo-yo logo but for tops:
I think they look great!

that is spiffy @-@
is he mexican? cus that looks rather cometa like  ;D
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jeremy McCreary on July 19, 2016, 11:48:45 PM
Before I forget, I'd like to wish everyone going to the Worlds a great time and the best of luck! Wish I could go and meet you all.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on July 21, 2016, 09:02:04 PM
Good ole Wikipedia.  Always a good source of trivia and other information.  Guess who has been at the hotel where we are staying?  Here is a list.....Charles Lindbergh spoke there not long after his solo Trans-Atlantic flight; Elliott Ness and his wife often danced in the ballroom and he even questioned someone in a famous murder case there; President Truman stayed overnight; Eleanor Roosevelt also was a guest of the hotel and President Eisenhower delivered a series of speeches there.

The list really picks up steam with this one........can you believe the Beatles stayed there and the Police had to work hard to control the mobs of fans.  Martin Luther King, Jr. attended a Nobel Peace prize dinner there in his honor.  The Beatles must have liked the place because they came back again to stay there before another concert.  Duke Ellington gave a concert in the hotel ballroom.  President Gerald Ford gave a number of speeches there.  Ronald Reagan was a visitor.  Boxer Larry Holmes fought a series of exhibitions in the grand ballroom.  The cast and crew of the movie "A Christmas Story" stayed there while filming that movie in 1983......which means a lot to us because in the sequel to that movie Ralphie gets a top and fights the bully in some big battletop scenes.

So, that brings the total to at least four Presidents, the wife of a President, a Duke and the Beatles (twice) at this hotel.  And now the best top spinners in the world (with an Earl) will be there!!!  What a historic place.     
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Dick Stohr on July 22, 2016, 09:25:36 AM
Mike, you can add another connection: That hotel is where I first met Bev at a DeMolay convention in 1962.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on July 22, 2016, 10:50:47 AM
That is a good one, Dick!!!  Congratulations on your 54 years of knowing each other.  I will think about you two at worlds and smile.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on July 23, 2016, 11:41:38 PM
Wow! That's incredible Dick!

The Colombians confirmed that they cannot come this year. Something to do with the new government and a change of personnel at the sports promotion agency.  :'(

On the good news, Cuper will be there. So this is a good time to look again at his amazing trompomovil:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL4kkoSPDUA
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: JNeff on July 24, 2016, 06:41:13 PM
Wow. I love this man Cuper and I've never met him. Some great ideas there.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on July 26, 2016, 12:14:41 AM
ITSA is providing the trophies for 2nd and 3rd place, plus a 1st place "traditional" (solid, fixed tip top: without the Colombians it is going to go to a Japanese). The trophy for the first place is being provided by the contest (Drew is making it).
I am making similar trophies as the ones for the same positions that we gave in 2012 and 13 (so Mark already has one). Here is third place (I need to repaint the top):

(http://ta0.com/photos/images/contests/Worlds16_Cleveland/worlds-trophy_3rd_2016.jpg)

(I hope they are not much bigger than first place . . .  ::) )
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: jim in paris on July 26, 2016, 05:38:33 AM
hi all

what a cast ! gus cuper ,fernando,neff and the others

wishing you a fabulous time  8) 8)


connexion free corsica

bye

jim
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on July 26, 2016, 10:17:43 AM
In reading about the event, I see where there will be a "maker space" with lathes and 3D printers.  It says it will be coordinated by our very own Kyo (Kyle Weems of Kyo's toys) and Drew Tetz (44RPM).  I remember being fascinated by the "lathe room" in the past but this sounds like it is going to another level.  Maybe Kyo can tell us a bit about what to expect and give us some inside information on this "maker space".

Like, for instance, the world yoyo website only talks about making yoyos.  Will we be able to make tops?
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on July 27, 2016, 12:43:00 AM
I'll be there with my wife, Thursday till Sunday!  No lathe, but lots of goodies.....

 :) :) :) If this doesn't get you excited, you don't know who Eric is!

I am glad to announce two prize donations for the freestyles contest.

Chico Yoyo Company is donating a black Chico 2.0 to be given as a prize to the winner!  :o  8) This $100 top is one of the best spintops in the world, used by the current World and US champ in his winning freestyles!  ;)  BIG THANKS to Chico Yoyo Company for giving your support to the spintop community!

(http://ta0.com/museum/images/CYYC/CYYC_second_3.jpg)

Forum's "immortal member" Jack is also supporting the contest by donating 50 ft (fifty!) of his handmade spintop string!  8) And when I say handmade, I mean it: if you have seen his string fabricating video, it takes a lot of cranking to make that string! Thanks Jack!
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jeremy McCreary on July 27, 2016, 01:19:17 AM
Chico Yoyo Company is donating a black Chico 2.0 to be given as a prize to the winner!  :o  8) This $100 top is one of the best spintops in the world, used by the current World and US champ in his winning freestyles!  ;)  BIG THANKS to Chico Yoyo Company for giving your support to the spintop community!

Man, those Chico tops are gorgeous!
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on July 27, 2016, 11:14:58 AM
Forum's "immortal member" Jack is also supporting the contest by donating 50 ft (fifty!) of his handmade spintop string!  8) And when I say handmade, I mean it: if you have seen his string fabricating video, it takes a lot of cranking to make that string! Thanks Jack!

thanks for the shout out ta0  ;D
heres what ive just sent  ;)

(http://i1365.photobucket.com/albums/r754/jack1861-1865/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsjqzbkxrv.jpg)
(http://i1365.photobucket.com/albums/r754/jack1861-1865/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsx91wnmxg.jpg)

good luck freestyling gentlemen  ;D
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: kyo on July 28, 2016, 02:31:11 AM
In reading about the event, I see where there will be a "maker space" with lathes and 3D printers.  It says it will be coordinated by our very own Kyo (Kyle Weems of Kyo's toys) and Drew Tetz (44RPM).  I remember being fascinated by the "lathe room" in the past but this sounds like it is going to another level.  Maybe Kyo can tell us a bit about what to expect and give us some inside information on this "maker space".

Like, for instance, the world yoyo website only talks about making yoyos.  Will we be able to make tops?

Yea, this is what we used to do jumped up several levels.. we are demonstrating desktop manufacturing with modern tools.

I'm bringing 4 3d printers (one of which will be given away thanks to a generous sponsorship from MatterHackers), we will have a Carvey machine from Inventables (desktop cnc router) as well. I was hoping to bring a small CNC but I ran into um.. well I broke it.

The primary focus is on yo-yos, since that's the major event.. but I'd be happy to talk about tops as well, all the same stuff applies from a production standpoint.

The general plan:

Each day we will hold a workshop session (aiming for ~10am) where I will randomly select someone to design a yo-yo. We will sketch it, I will demonstrate how to model it (I have a nice projector so everybody can see), convert that file to 3d printer code (called slicing), and make it. I will talk about the entire process, about how I test designs mathematically and how to tweak designs to improve them. I will also cover how you would make that design using the Carvey machine, a CNC lathe, or any other method you can think of.. but 3d printing is the easiest to demo on site. The rest of the day will be an open q/a with me and any other makers I can recruit and I will have the printers running the design of the day. The printers will spit out parts all day and night and the next morning we will give away whatever we have made.

Meanwhile, the Carvey will be producing fixed axle wooden yo-yos to give away. They will have the Worlds logo on one side and we're trying to set it up so that people can customize the other side. The machine runs on a software called Easel which I'll be showing the basics of and helping people create their designs which will then be cut on their yo-yos. Spaces will be limited a bit as we only have one machine, but I have enough wood for ~50-60 yo-yos.

If any of you guys want to stop by, I'll talk about tops as well and if there is time (I'm stretched pretty thin) I'd be willing to draw one up and make it.

My plan is also to be selling some finger tops at my sales table in the main hall, but quantities will be -very- limited.. so be sure to stop by early :) (I will probably release a few each day in different materials)

Kyle
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Hroch on July 28, 2016, 06:45:25 AM
Spintop freestyle order here: http://i1.wp.com/worlds16.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/wyyc2016-fsoder-semi.jpg   :)
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on July 28, 2016, 06:55:49 AM
Thanks Kyo!  I will definitely be stopping by.  I have a lot of questions but will try to control myself!!!

So, I see Kirk will be starting off the spin top show!  I always liked going first.  You get it over with and then you can relax and enjoy the other freestyles.  Good luck to all.  It looks like a great field!!!

I also noticed a women's final.  That seems like a good idea to help develop more female participants.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on July 28, 2016, 11:05:01 AM
You are bringing four 3D machines? Wow! That maker's space will surpass Tokyo's, no doubt!   :)

I see they left two blank spots for Cuper and Fernando on the freestyles. They are not yet registered but I did upload their music. I don't see how we can put 10 freestyles in 30 minutes. Or they give us more time or we will have to have prelims in a room to cut it to no more than 8.  :'( 

Mike: the women's yo-yo freestyles have been one of the most popular events with the public the last two years. I see that this year Anne is not competing (sorry Jack). Betty Gallegos from Mexico should easily win it.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Kirk on July 28, 2016, 11:22:24 AM
I see they left two blank spots for Cuper and Fernando on the freestyles. They are not yet registered but I did upload their music. I don't see how we can put 10 freestyles in 30 minutes. Or they give us more time or we will have to have prelims in a room to cut it to no more than 8.  :'( 
By eliminating the Prelims perhaps that leaves a hole in the schedule for all the "finalists"   I did not expect to be in the finals.  Now I need to work on filling 3 minutes.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on July 28, 2016, 11:37:18 AM
By eliminating the Prelims perhaps that leaves a hole in the schedule for all the "finalists"   I did not expect to be in the finals.  Now I need to work on filling 3 minutes.

(https://pics.onsizzle.com/Instagram-You-raise-me-up-so-I-26cf0b.png)
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on July 28, 2016, 11:48:11 AM
I see that this year Anne is not competing (sorry Jack).

(http://i.amz.mshcdn.com/07TXFFAdiXVg24QSoVO2G5ohTmU=/fit-in/1200x9600/http%3A%2F%2Fmashable.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F07%2Fcrying-waterfalls.gif)
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on July 28, 2016, 12:59:55 PM
wait a second wheres durdak!?!?!??!
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Gustin Joss on July 29, 2016, 11:55:14 AM
Have the dates for Worlds 2017 been announced? I will be attending.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on July 29, 2016, 12:19:18 PM
wait a second wheres durdak!?!?!??!
Mike is concentrating on 4A. I wish him good luck . . . but he had a better chance in spintops  ::)

Have the dates for Worlds 2017 been announced? I will be attending.
Woohoo! Great Boot!  :o  :)
I don't know if the exact days for the World Yo-Yo Contest in Iceland have been announced. Note that although it is most likely that the World Spintop Contest will take place as always together with the WYYC, it is not certain. An alternative location is France and I would not be surprised if there is another proposal  :-X
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Gustin Joss on July 29, 2016, 04:01:15 PM
Hmmm...I really want to go to Iceland. I have friends who are planning on making the trip with me.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: kyo on July 29, 2016, 06:43:31 PM
Not that I have any say in it.. but Iceland is a way cooler destination than France :)

As far as I know there have been no dates announced, but it will be roughly the same time of year.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on July 30, 2016, 09:08:34 AM
Thank you Boot for telling us your preference. The Earl also wants to go to Iceland (both of you could pass as Vikings  ;D ). We'll try to have it wherever most players want to have it. I'll talk with the Icelandic delegation at worlds to make sure we are invited.

Cuper is arriving to my house on Monday (by bus after flying to Houston) and we are flying (in different flights) to worlds on Tuesday. We should be at the hotel by 4PM.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: jim in paris on August 02, 2016, 04:58:29 AM
high all ;--)

thanx to  Chico for your commitment and same for Jack

looking forward to see these great trophies in action

can someone post the link to the streaming video and schedule ? thanx...

the Olympics opening day is on friday too

cheeers

jim in AJACCIO
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: ta0 on August 02, 2016, 06:23:42 AM
I am at the airport for a very early flight.
Here is a photo of Cuper at the Alamo yesterday.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on August 02, 2016, 09:33:45 AM
I have no nice picture like Cuper at the Alamo, but I am packing up the car.  Autograph and I look forward to seeing C & T this evening.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on August 02, 2016, 09:38:40 AM
I am at the airport for a very early flight.
Here is a photo of Cuper at the Alamo yesterday.

that picture has the feels that that man has premium control over that gyroscopic device @-@
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Kirk on August 02, 2016, 01:22:13 PM
Leaving work early to go pack.
See you guys tomorrow.
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: the Earl of Whirl on August 02, 2016, 07:30:54 PM
I am getting closer but I had to make a pit stop and get something to eat.  I will try to get to the hotel before dark.  The good news is that one of my stops on the way was very fruitful.  I visited the Lego store in Columbus (Easton shopping Center) and (thanks to Jeremy's help) I made some better Lego selections for tops.  I also talked to some people about pieces for stems and they gave me an Internet site to check out for specific parts from their stores.

My idea was to set these pieces out and see if anyone shows any interest in making some Lego tops.  At least I will enjoy playing with them!!!
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Jack on August 02, 2016, 08:30:42 PM
I am getting closer but I had to make a pit stop and get something to eat.  I will try to get to the hotel before dark.  The good news is that one of my stops on the way was very fruitful.  I visited the Lego store in Columbus (Easton shopping Center) and (thanks to Jeremy's help) I made some better Lego selections for tops.  I also talked to some people about pieces for stems and they gave me an Internet site to check out for specific parts from their stores.

My idea was to set these pieces out and see if anyone shows any interest in making some Lego tops.  At least I will enjoy playing with them!!!

#roadtripWin

(http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2015/10/20/drake-dance/drake-3.w529.h352.gif)
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Austen on August 02, 2016, 08:39:57 PM
On our way to Worlds!!! Super excited to see everyone and have new adventures in Spintopery!!!
Title: Re: Worlds 2016 Cleveland preparation thread
Post by: Eric on August 03, 2016, 02:05:22 PM
We'll be there tomorrow afternoon !