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Jeremy McCreary

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Halloween top
« on: October 27, 2023, 11:43:53 PM »



This Halloween-themed top kinda made itself from parts laying around on my workbench. With a mass of 243 g and max radius of 168 mm, it may be my highest-AMI top ever. Also one of the dirtiest aerodynamically.

Between the huge AMI and severe drag, hard to start this top by hand, but a 1:4 planetary starter does the job. Initially, the top stayed up all of 9 s from a starter launch at ~200 RPM. But spin time doubled after adding side-fairings (see 1:30) to reduce air flow through the spoke structures.

Significantly less drag after the fairings, to be sure, but still severe — enough so that you can feel the top's wake at arm's length! The AMI added by the fairings effectively took it out of finger top territory.

As a final tweak, I lowered CM height from 36 to 30 mm. Spoke strikes got harder to avoid during spin-up — especially by hand. But speed at fall dropped from ~90 to ~70 RPM despite the reduced ground clearance, and spin time with the starter bumped from 18 to 23 s.

OK, not exactly a Simonelli-class spin time. But hey, do any of his tops have pumpkins and ducks on huge spokes? I think not!
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Re: Halloween top
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2023, 03:15:58 AM »

Being so large, and not so heavy, (and consequently, I presume, with a relatively high AMI/weight ratio), and with a low toppling speed, I believe that it could spin for a long time in vacuum conditions, because of these features.
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Jeremy McCreary

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Re: Halloween top
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2023, 11:10:48 AM »

Being so large, and not so heavy, (and consequently, I presume, with a relatively high AMI/weight ratio), and with a low toppling speed, I believe that it could spin for a long time in vacuum conditions, because of these features.

I agree. In version 2, I plan to remove the pumpkins and duckies, install smooth upper spoke fairings, and do my best to seal the bottoms of the spokes as well. The AMI will go up again, but the less air flow inside the spokes, the better.

I've made lots of spoked tops, as LEGO lends itself to that geometry. Conclusion: Spokes aren't good for spin time, even when streamined.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2023, 11:28:38 AM by Jeremy McCreary »
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Re: Halloween top
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2023, 11:18:52 AM »

I m trying to make this thing spin along

Jeremy  , your box of lego parts will help a lot





fun ahead 🥳
jim
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