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[Jack]

I prefer the 2x4 for most tops but the 3x4 lets you throw harder.

ya thats what i found tday, the 3x4 feels like it has alot more drag on the line. what i did find out was that for "sun-spiders" the 3x4 was actually ALOT easier to use and tended not to tangle as bad 

[Jack]

produced another 39 ft yesterday evening @-@

[Jack]

produced these 2 fine specimens tday @-@
each 13 ft. long

[lincolnrick]

Jack, you're a string makin' maniac!  Are you sure you're not making a stockpile inventory for a future Etsy store? Just make some buttons for those strings and you're GOLD.   

[Jack]

Jack, you're a string makin' maniac!  Are you sure you're not making a stockpile inventory for a future Etsy store? Just make some buttons for those strings and you're GOLD.   

thank you sir!!!
lol yes unfrotunatly so, i have no intentions of selling string
ya ive been experimenting a bit with buttons lately, ive turned out a few goodones but something is off about them and i dont know
what 

[Nocto]

I've been thinking about your video, specifically about twisting direction: if you twist the string clockwise and then untwist it counterclockwise from the opposite point of view, are you not, from the original point of view, twisting clockwise the whole way through? The end result appears to work out, though, which makes this all the more confusing.

I'll try when I can with my Technic 3-ply gearbox that I haven't tested yet, because I'm curious to know what happens if you twist clockwise from the opposite point of view (which would make it counterclockwise from the original point of view).

Let me know if you try.

[Jack]

I've been thinking about your video, specifically about twisting direction: if you twist the string clockwise and then untwist it counterclockwise from the opposite point of view, are you not, from the original point of view, twisting clockwise the whole way through? The end result appears to work out, though, which makes this all the more confusing.

I'll try when I can with my Technic 3-ply gearbox that I haven't tested yet, because I'm curious to know what happens if you twist clockwise from the opposite point of view (which would make it counterclockwise from the original point of view).

Let me know if you try.

yes that is correct, the confusion comes in because of the fact i cant spin the headstock. mr neffs "kneff" design is much more efficient in that regard 

lol ill leave experimenting for someone else, it literally takes 30-45 minutes of cranking on the headstock furiously to get a 13 ft length with my rig so by the time im ready to start cranking the tail stock im in no mood for experimenting lol 
ud wind up making left handed string though if you did crank clockwise on the tailstock, id be surprised if it worked after ud cranked clockwise on the headstock though 
 

[Jack]

it didnt turn out as visible as i had hoped but that "white" strand is actually a very nice minty colour, anyway im still quite pleased with the result  might try a 2x2 mint/pink later though cus i think that might be a better way to showcase the mint colour.
13 ft.

[Nocto]

I've been thinking about your video, specifically about twisting direction: if you twist the string clockwise and then untwist it counterclockwise from the opposite point of view, are you not, from the original point of view, twisting clockwise the whole way through? The end result appears to work out, though, which makes this all the more confusing.

I'll try when I can with my Technic 3-ply gearbox that I haven't tested yet, because I'm curious to know what happens if you twist clockwise from the opposite point of view (which would make it counterclockwise from the original point of view).

Let me know if you try.

yes that is correct, the confusion comes in because of the fact i cant spin the headstock. mr neffs "kneff" design is much more efficient in that regard 

But that's the thing. Neff, if I watched the video attentively, spins the gear shaft counterclockwise so that the gears on his k'nex gearbox spin clockwise--which is what you do. Then, the headstock, again, if I was attentive, unwinds counterclockwise, which from the point of view of the tailstock is clockwise--which is not what you do. All things being equal, unwinding from the tailstock or the headstock shouldn't make a difference, unless I'm missing something.

I'll have to test it, because your way seems to work all the same. *scratches head*

edit: I just tried, and the string seems to just untwist itself (not the individual plies). I don't get it, but I guess there's no denying empirical evidence.

[Jack]

I've been thinking about your video, specifically about twisting direction: if you twist the string clockwise and then untwist it counterclockwise from the opposite point of view, are you not, from the original point of view, twisting clockwise the whole way through? The end result appears to work out, though, which makes this all the more confusing.

I'll try when I can with my Technic 3-ply gearbox that I haven't tested yet, because I'm curious to know what happens if you twist clockwise from the opposite point of view (which would make it counterclockwise from the original point of view).

Let me know if you try.

yes that is correct, the confusion comes in because of the fact i cant spin the headstock. mr neffs "kneff" design is much more efficient in that regard 

But that's the thing. Neff, if I watched the video attentively, spins the gear shaft counterclockwise so that the gears on his k'nex gearbox spin clockwise--which is what you do. Then, the headstock, again, if I was attentive, unwinds counterclockwise, which from the point of view of the tailstock is clockwise--which is not what you do. All things being equal, unwinding from the tailstock or the headstock shouldn't make a difference, unless I'm missing something.

I'll have to test it, because your way seems to work all the same. *scratches head*

edit: I just tried, and the string seems to just untwist itself (not the individual plies). I don't get it, but I guess there's no denying empirical evidence.

my brain is hurting nocto 

[Nocto]

Wipe everything I just said from your mind. I was wrong and your way works. *waves magic wand*

[cecil]

Wow! What beautiful line. Do they do wire walkers both ways? I can just imagine the beautiful tops you could make when you get your hands on a wood lathe.

[Nocto]

Here's my less than impressive 3-ply by comparison.


It twisted really weird compared to the twice-folded method; almost looks braided. I'll have to work on the process.

[Jack]

Here's my less than impressive 3-ply by comparison.

It twisted really weird compared to the twice-folded method; almost looks braided. I'll have to work on the process.

looks good to me 
3ply isnt as round as the 4ply, 3 ply feels a little more frictiony on the string imo.
once youve tasted neffy 4 ply........youre never the same again 


can you post some pics of your rig? im very interested to see what you came up with eh 

[Neff]

once youve tasted neffy 4 ply........youre never the same again 

Another shirt!

can you post some pics of your rig? im very interested to see what you came up with eh

Ditto